This was really interesting to read. I can easily get a better picture of an
alternate plan now, and better pricing which includes support options. If
you look at their pricing you will find a SA offering like we used to have
here. I didn't read anywhere that Worgroupshare was dependent on any
particular email servers.

It looks to me like a person could use any suitably priced email server with
a support and upgrade plan that would suit our needs as suggested by David
Karp, and still be able to add as many users in increments which the clients
could pay for. This way we could market this service ourselves without
paying for the extra overpriced AV and IM products being shoved down our
throats.

Also see their email server product at http://www.workgroupmail.com/ which
appears to be pretty nice at first glance. There is an SA that is less
expensive that what we have been paying for Imail, but it doesn't appear to
include major product upgrades. However you can also purchase single support
issues for $30 each so there is no question about paying for something you
may not even use :)

I guess if Ipswitch can maintain 10% of their client base and get them to
pay these prices they will be better off than they were before their new
marketing scheme. Though I'm not in a hurry, I sure have an open mind about
moving on after our SA expires and not playing this game with them. It's not
a matter of principle and ethics as I see it!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James P. Bednarz
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration tools exposed

I downloaded the trial of ICS and as we all suspected it is simply an
install of Imail, IpswitchIM, and Workgroupshare (www.workgroupshare.com)

3 separate programs connected by an installer.

The 3 software programs are not tied together one bit by code and do not
rely on each other for anything. 

The other installers install Imail 8.13 and IM 2.01 individually

If you go to www.workgroupshare.com you can buy the collaboration software
component 250 user license for $2995.

Its almost as if Ipswitch is selling Imail, and IM as a cheap add on to this
workgroupshare software. 

All of this just makes you want to say What in tarnation is going on here?

The fall of Ipswitch could be as bad as the fall of the New York Yankees!



James P. Bednarz
Information Technology Manager
Kaestle Boos Associates, Inc.
Teamwork Rules!


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