Here's just one sample from my hold file. Please Bruce, try telling me
that Earthlink isn't to blame for sending my users this garbage.
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If C/R becomes more prevalent, I will code up scripts to intercept all
such messages and automatically submit everything as OK so long as
there isn't some graphical passcode like Earthlink uses. At least
Earthlink has supplemental spam blocking mechanisms so that not every
piece of spam bounces, in fact it appears that only a small percentage
bounces. Still though, if everyone did C/R, that alone would become a
problem as bad as spam.
Don't think for a second that if you use C/R that you won't get
blacklisted, or that it won't matter. Eventually you will, and getting
off of a blacklist isn't easy and in some cases it is impossible. If
C/R becomes more prevalent and therefore necessitates action, it is
likely that the blacklists will become more aggressive in blocking mail
servers that use it.
Matt
R. Scott Perry wrote:
1. almost who is using Challenge/Response
LOVED the service. They have the option, on a user-by-user basis, to
turn it off.
IMHO, it is a very GOOD thing and is overwhelmingly liked by the
administrations of the three school systems I talked to.
Yes, many of the people who *use* it like it. It's the rest of the
world that hates it. See the top 10 reasons why challenge/response
(C/R) is bad:
[1] You end up being a spammer (the majority of spam sent to you will
result in confirmation requests being sent to innocent victims)
[2] Spammers now send pretend confirmation requests, presumably to make
people less likely to respond to C/R requests
[3] Many people respond to C/R requests that they never initiated
(sometimes intentionally, sometimes not). Some people who are fed up
with bogus C/R requests respond to all of 'em, knowing that the spam
will start getting through to people hiding behind C/R.
[4] C/R companies have been known to send out spam and harvest
addresses of people sending to their customers, and apparently sell
those addresses to spammers
[5] The C/R system is patented, so most anti-spam programs using C/R
have legal liabilities waiting to be ironed out. The C/R program you
buy today may go under tomorrow.
[6] Confirmations sent to mailing lists won't work
[7] Confirmations sent to others using C/R won't work. If everybody
had C/R, nobody could send E-mail to anybody!
[8] People like me that offer a free service (in my case, helping
people with DNS) end up losing money (by spending time investigating
and responding to C/R systems, dealing with spam received as a result,
etc.) and sometimes get fed up with C/R systems and eventually stop
offering free advice (never knowing how many people won't get it),
harming everybody.
[9] Legitimate E-mail from automated services won't be seen (such as
when ordering products online)
[10] Due to #1-#9, most C/R challenges are treated as spam -- if the
challenge never gets through, the response will never get through.
In other words, you're doing something nice for your customers, but at
the cost of annoying the rest of the world.
-Scott
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