Sorry, thought you were saying there were three choices in the configuration
settings...

At the risk of being a broken record, this still doesn't protect from what
I've seen to be the most common type of dictionary attack...one in which
each attempt comes from a different IP.  In fact, I haven't seen them coming
from a single IP since well over a year ago....when we added a 250 ms delay
between recipients in the SMTP advanced settings.  That slows down the
attack enough that it effectively tarpits the attacker.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ted Galerneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Dictionary attacks and TCP Probes?


Thanks Darin, but the deal is that Cycle Rider posted how to make this
automatically ban them for one day. I need to know how to auto select that
"One Hour" :) <ginning back> I think that should be enough to make us not
worthwhile and too much trouble to do dictionary attacks on. However I am
learning to not underestimate the amount of effort spammers will go through
to do what that do!

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Dictionary attacks and TCP Probes?

Hmmm...looks to me like setting it to one hour would mean selecting the "One
Hour" choice...<grin>

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ted Galerneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Dictionary attacks and TCP Probes?


Thanks Len, I did bump it up to 5 after our client called as hopefully a
temp fix. However I still am not sure how to make it block for one hour
rather than 24 hours. There are only 3 choices, One Hour, One Day, and
Forever.

I don't think there is anyway to purge the BlackIce ban list without writing
some scripts to do it. I don't see anything within the program that will do
anything of that nature. While BlackIce is a pretty awesome program, there
are some limitations.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Dictionary attacks and TCP Probes?


>This has worked out pretty awesome until we had a client making a
legitimate
>mistake where he did a reply to an email where someone had put a name
rather
>than an email address. After trying 3 times in rapid succession he was
>blocked for 24 hours.

3 is too low, double or triple it

the algorithm should be fast attacking, checking every 15 minutes or so,
not every 4 or 24 hours.

>My question would be what to tweak in order to change the 24 hours to only
>one hour?

1 hour is long enough.

If they come back (or persist while blocked), you block (refresh) for
another hour.

For purging the list of inactive entries (to keep the list small), no
activity for x hours, then remove from blocking.

Len


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