I just couldn't justify $13K for spam control; I need to spend that money on
other projects with better ROI for our company.  I understand your ROI is
different than mine, and you are a service provider.  I agree everyone
should look at all options before settling on one or many solution(s) that
fit the problem.  

I also appreciate you posting you results/experience with another product
that helps in this battle against SPAM.  Maybe my previous post was rash and
short.

I'm just a amazed with the results of our IMGate/CLAM antivirus ... the ROI
on IMGate, even if I had to buy a new DELL server (we are an all DELL shop)
would be about 4 months, since it extended our Imail servers life for
several more years and we were able to use an old PC for IMGate our real ROI
as less than a week!  

I also looked at the ePrism product but like barracuda, the cost was too
high for my budget.

A question ... would you want to risk 25 million messages a day on one box?
  

Christopher Checca
Packard Transport, Inc.
IT Department
24021 South Municipal Dr
PO Box 380
Channahon, IL.  60410
815 467 9260
815 467 6939 Fax
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Before everyone caps off about "free solutions" (I still would have spent
some money on hardware you should look at the features of the barracuda
system.  Web based admin, quarantine boxes that allow users to get a daily
digest of the quarantined messages using a local, LDAP, or Radius
authentication.  Users can set their own spam scores with simple to use
sliders, they can enable or disable SPAM and virus filtering, they can
manage their own block and white lists.  There is domain level control as
well.

Everything is web based management, no config files, and it turns up fast
and easy.  The reporting is amazing!  

This is only a few of it's features.  IM gate seemed fairly good and seemed
like a good alternative to declude... however all these processes are 1
thread per message processes.  To box Barracuda 600 can handle 25 Millions
messages per day on one box.  The features are amazing, and the ease of use
is simple and fast.

I appreciate IMgate and Declue and these low cost solutions, but you may
want to at least compare features before you decide that the best solutions
are free.

=Jeff Cox 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:48 AM
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Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Great MX firewall to put in front of your imail
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WOW $13K ... IMGate fixed our problem with SPAM for free!

Christopher Checca
Packard Transport, Inc.
IT Department
24021 South Municipal Dr
PO Box 380
Channahon, IL.  60410
815 467 9260
815 467 6939 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.packardtransport.com
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Cox
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:13 AM
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Subject: [IMail Forum] Great MX firewall to put in front of your imail
server

We use imail and declude and transact 400,000 messages per day over about
250 domains.  The fact is that neither declude imail combo, nor imail
internal antispam and antivirus could keep up with our traffic, even though
we had dual xeon's and a new high performance dell server.  With our junk
mail traffic doubling every 3 months as a small ISP with only about 3K
customers we were going to have to buy and deploy multiple imail servers
that would have been expensive in hardware and software.  This got me to
thinking I would have to switch mail server software to sendmail that is
more efficient as well as can more easily be spilt up across severs based on
process (pop, smtp, imap, etc) rather than by accounts.  Then I found
something that let me keep my investment in my current mail server.

For about $13K we bought a barracuda 600 spam fire wall
(http://www.barracudanetworks.com/).  The features are amazing, it can
cluster easily, and the updates are fairly cheap.  You still need imail and
/or declude for internal mail protection and outbound mail (and unless you
want to buy an outbound unit from barracuda as well).  But this product has
saved me from switching mail servers.  You can apply for a free 30 day demo!

=Jeffery Cox
Chief Operating Officer
McMinnville Access Company DBA OnlineMac / Centricata
www.onlinemac.com
www.centricata.com

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