What about CAN-SPAM and the spammers that have been put in jail.

totally ineffective, from my POV as MX admin

IMGate for one.

IMGate doesn't stop spam, it rejects spam.

>not "attacking", but defensively COUNTER-attacking.

Counter-attacking is not defense. It's offense.

jeez, I have been/am/will be attacked. That is absolutely clear. In self-defense, I attack the attacker in an attemtp to stop his attacks. That's defense.


Len

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