Hi,

I made a lot of test, but i didn't made a comparison list. It's a good idea 
anyway.

> New products always seem cooler, and a new product will usually not suffer
> the same problems as an older product.  On the other hand, the new product
> may have many new problems of its own, or outright deficiencies (did someone
This is correct. The guys from SmarterTools are not new in the business and are 
"hungry"
to push and develop their products.

I decided to sell ICS and SmarterMail in the future. SmarterMail will be the 
new "20
minutes solution" and the "affordable Mail Server" for future and existing 
customers.

I sent a huge feature request list to their support a few weeks ago. Some will 
implemented
soon, others in the version 3.0.

I somebody wants to know more about the feature requests, please contact me 
off-list.

This place is not the right place to discuss this, i guess.

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Am Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2005 um 04:01 schrieben Sie:

> Just curious, but has anyone made a list of deficiencies of SmarterMail
> versus IMail?  That is, if Ipswitch wanted to explain why IMail is the
> better product, or if some admins have reasons why they consider SmarterMail
> inferior, has anyone made such a pitch?

> New products always seem cooler, and a new product will usually not suffer
> the same problems as an older product.  On the other hand, the new product
> may have many new problems of its own, or outright deficiencies (did someone
> say SmarterMail doesn't support program aliases?).  It seems to me the place
> to start an evaluation is with the case against SmarterMail.

> Ben
> BC Web

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Martin Schaible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Wolf Tombe" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] I-mail and SmarterMail 2.0


>> Hi Wolf,
>>
>>
>> > Has anyone evaluated SmarterMail with an eye on determining how robust
> or scalable it
>> > might be?  (i.e., number of domains, users or messages it can handle
> compared to iMail)
>> I compared SmarterMail vs. IMail on two identical machines. A small
> ColdFusion application
>> send 200'000 mails in 24 hours to both candidates. SNMP sensors reported
> CPU-load, Memory
>> load and other data to a log server. SmarterMail used less of CPU-load,
> Memory, etc...
>>
>> Unfortunately, i didn't made the tests with a lot of domains, i was i an
> hurry.
>>
>> > I like SmarterMail; but, being a relatively new company I couldn't find
> any
>> > information about existing clients or implementations that could be
> considered anything
>> > other than modest uses of the application.
>> Ask their Support-People.
>>
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>> Am Mittwoch, 26. Januar 2005 um 20:29 schrieben Sie:
>>
>> > Has anyone evaluated SmarterMail with an eye on determining how robust
> or scalable it
>> > might be?  (i.e., number of domains, users or messages it can handle
> compared to iMail)
>>
>>
>> > I like SmarterMail; but, being a relatively new company I couldn't find
> any
>> > information about existing clients or implementations that could be
> considered anything
>> > other than modest uses of the application.
>>
>> > Has anyone load tested SmarterMail in either a lab or production
> environment?
>>
>>
>>
>> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> > From: Martin Schaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Reply-To: [email protected]
>> > Date:  Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:08:55 +0100
>>
>> >>Hi Tim,
>> >>
>> >>SmarterMail 2.0 is a complete mail server. Yes, it can be a good
> replacement for IMail.
>> >>
>> >>- Not every functionality is implemented yet, e.g. Program Aliases and
> other minor things.
>> >>- The build in anti spam tools are not on the level of IMail, but they
> working on it.
>> >>
>> >>I can't translate "intriguing", but i think this means "cool" or
> "great"...
>> >>
>> >>We made tons of tests with SmarterMail and it behaves really nice. If
> you need more info,
>> >>check out the online forums at smartertools.com.
>> >>
>> >>I think SmarterMail and Declude AntiVirus/AntiSpam can be the perfect
> choice. Declude
>> >>offers an introduction offer for both products for a fair price.
>> >>
>> >>Ooops, this was marketing...
>> >>
>> >>============================================
>> >>Am Mittwoch, 26. Januar 2005 um 19:38 schrieben Sie:
>> >>
>> >>> We currently have I-mail Pro 8.15 along with Declude Anti-virus Std
> Edition
>> >>> and Junkmail Professional Edition.  I have been noticing a lot of talk
> about
>> >>> the new SmarterMail that is packaged with Declude, and I even went to
> their
>> >>> site and was reading up on it.  I do have a question about it though.
>> >>
>> >>> Is SmarterMail a whole e-mail server software package to replace
> I-mail, or
>> >>> just an add-on to work with I-mail acting as the webmail interface?
> So far,
>> >>> we've been pretty pleased with the I-mail, however, the new look of
> the
>> >>> SmarterMail is intriguing.  If anyone has had experience using
> SmarterMail
>> >>> 2.0 and can provide some insight, that would be helpful.
>> >>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>> Tim Cook
>> >>> Varsity Contractors
>> >>> IT Technical Support
>> >>> (208) 232-8599 x3035
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