Yeah, I've got it now.  I was just scratching my head about it this morning
and needed more "eyes" to look at it.

Thanks all for your help. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:27 AM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Unusual NDR

The 551 message is certainly coming from the remote MTA. You seem to have
figured this out yourself. In any case, you can't "fix" it on your end
because it's "not broken".

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Grant Bainbridge
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:29 AM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Unusual NDR



Here are the pertinent log entries.  It looks like the message from
postmaster actually comes after the server tries to deliver to the remote
user's mail server, so maybe it's not our Imail server after all.

Actual user names have been changed to protect the innocent:

04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) processing
d:\IMail\spool\Q8ce00169014e388a.SMD
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) [x] looking up cch.com in HOSTS and MX
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) Info - DNS Cache full, deleting last
item (cox.net)
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) Info - Adding cch.com to DNS cache - TTL
= 3600
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) ldeliver rainier.chappell.com
copymail-main (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1670656
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) Trying cch.com (0)
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) [x] Connecting socket to service <SMTP>
on host <cch.com> using protocol <tcp>
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) [x] using source IP for
rainier.chappell.com [69.66.60.4]
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) Info - Found cch.com in DNS Cache
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) Connect cch.com [216.183.119.109:25] (1)
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 220 p03m109.mxlogic.net ESMTP
mxl_mta-2.9.0-22 [1230793648.62799]; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:19:56 -0600 (MDT);
NO UCE, INBOUND
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) >EHLO rainier.chappell.com
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 250-p03m109.mxlogic.net
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 250-SIZE 0
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 250-SUBMITTER
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 250 PIPELINING
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) >MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 250 Sender Ok
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) >RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ok (normal)
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) >DATA
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 354 Start mail input; end with
<CRLF>.<CRLF>
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) >.
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 551 Message contains a ZIP file that is
extremely compressed (97.02%)
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) ERR undeliverable 551 Message contains a
ZIP file that is extremely compressed (97.02%)
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) >QUIT
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) 221 p03m109.mxlogic.net Service closing
transmission channel
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) [u] closing socket (u)
04:13 16:20 SMTP-(8ce00169014e388a) Creating message from Postmaster

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Shanbrom
[Ipswitch]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:58 AM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Unusual NDR

IF they are doing rejections at the envelope level by checking content as it
comes in this could happen. IN your logs, you should be able to tell where
it got stopped.

Eric S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Unusual NDR


> Hmm...  I would suspect that to be the case in other circumstances.  
> But in this case the email originated from our user, and the NDR came 
> from our domain's postmaster account.  It never made it outside of our 
> server.
>
> I know how to get around the error; I'm trying to figure out why it 
> was an error at all, and what, if any, setting I can change to avoid 
> seeing it again.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher 
> Checca
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:19 AM
> To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Unusual NDR
>
> Sounds like they block zip files that they can't unzip and antivirus 
> scan correctly.  I would tell them to resend the email without being 
> in a zip format.
>
> Christopher Checca
> Packard Transport, Inc.
> IT Department
> 24021 South Municipal Dr
> PO Box 380
> Channahon, IL.  60410
> 815 467 9260
> 815 467 6939 Fax
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.packardtransport.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant 
> Bainbridge
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:03 AM
> To: Imail_forum@list.ipswitch.com
> Subject: [IMail Forum] Unusual NDR
>
> We're using Imail 8.15 with the latest patches.
>
> I had a user send a zipped text file to an outside client, but Imail 
> blocked it and sent back the following:
>
>>undeliverable to <email address>
>
>>Body of message generated response:
>>551 Message contains a ZIP file that is extremely compressed (97.02%)
>
> Any ideas why this happens?  Is there some setting that I can change 
> somewhere?  I checked the KB, list archives, and online discussion 
> forum, but came up empty-handed.
>
> TIA for any help.
>
>
> Grant Bainbridge
> Systems / Network Analyst
> Chappell / MarathonFoto
> 641.472.6892 x211
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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