> have the mx point to the ms smtp box and then smart host to the imail box
> kabish?

They're both on the same box...

Scott Smith
Network Administrator
248.489.1999
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Westside & Detroit Reprographics
An ARC Company
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Hayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway


Hi Scott -

>hat, let's say I want IIS to be the first to receive email from the
>Internet, and Imail second.
>
>
>
have the mx point to the ms smtp box and then smart host to the imail box
kabish?

-Nick



>How do I set that up and still be able to send/receive email on my network
>here?
>
>Scott Smith
>Network Administrator
>248.489.1999
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>An ARC Company
>-------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 4:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>Best thing would be to configure the 3rd party software to use IIS SMTP on 
>a
>port other than 25, and leave IMail on 25.
>
>Maybe if you reveal what the 3rd party software is, someone can assist with
>the configuration of it.
>
>Darin.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>I guess I'm not very good at explaining what I'm doing, so I'll try it
>again.
>
>I have this one server that runs my website and my mail services.  I want 
>to
>run some 3rd party software that does some processing of mail before it 
>goes
>to Imail.  The 3rd party software requires the use of IIS SMTP.  So I have
>to have mail go to the IIS SMTP first, and have IIS SMTP forward the mail 
>to
>Imail.  In order for that to work, IIS SMTP must be listening on port 25 
>and
>IIS SMTP must send mail outgoing on port 26, in which case it is forwarding
>those messages to Imail SMTP which would need to listen on port 26.  Again,
>all this is happening on one single Windows 2003 web edition server.
>
>As far as I can tell, with this setup, I have no SMTP service that will
>effectively let me have mail sent back out to the Internet, because I would
>need that SMTP service to send out on port 25.
>
>I hope that makes sense.  So my question again is, is there a way to set
>Imail SMTP to listen on port 26 but send outgoing connections on port 25?
>And by all means, if anyone sees something here that I'm missing 
>completely,
>let me know - I have a habit of making things more complicated than they
>need to be.
>
>Scott Smith
>Network Administrator
>248.489.1999
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>An ARC Company
>-------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>I think you need to step back and look at what you're really trying to
>accomplish.  What exactly is your need to have an SMTP process listening on
>a port other than standard 25?
>
>Darin.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>Actually, there is one more thing I need to address here.  If my IIS SMTP 
>is
>going to be set to a non-standard outgoing port, and my Imail SMTP is set 
>to
>that same non-standard port, then how would I get my outgoing email to go
>through?  Can Imail's SMTP be set to listen on one port but send outgoing 
>on
>another?  If not, then I'll have a problem getting email sent outside our
>network.
>
>Scott Smith
>Network Administrator
>248.489.1999
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>An ARC Company
>-------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>No, I just tested it - I shut down IIS SMTP and tried one of the scripts -
>mail still went through, so it is using Imail SMTP to send the mail, not 
>IIS
>SMTP.  So no problems here.
>
>Looks like I have everything I need now to do what I want to - thanks
>everyone for your input.
>
>Scott Smith
>Network Administrator
>248.489.1999
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>An ARC Company
>-------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "CyberSharks.Net Support Team" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:32 AM
>Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>If you are using PHP for web scripts then the email is probably being sent
>from the PHP email engine which uses the SMTP server specified in the
>php.ini file. You shouldn't be using the IIS SMTP server unless it is
>specified as the mail host to send mail through in php.ini. As mentioned
>earlier, if you have anything using CDONTS, recode it to use CDOSYS or a 
>3rd
>party component such as ASPEmail if you want to use ASP or .NET to code. 
>I'm
>sure there are alternatives in PHP and PERL as well.
>
>Justin Dixon, CCNA
>CyberSharks.Net, Inc.
>http://www.cybersharks.net
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Smith
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:16 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>I'm not even sure what CDONTS is - we're actually using PHP for our web
>scripts.  Having said that, I'm not actually sure that my web pages are
>using IIS SMTP - the default (port 25) has been Imail's SMTP, so I might 
>not
>
>have any issues afterall.
>
>Scott Smith
>Network Administrator
>248.489.1999
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>An ARC Company
>-------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:05 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>Sounds like you're using CDO.  Use a standard mail component instead of 
>CDO,
>or use CDOSYS instead of CDONTS and you're not tied to IIS SMTP
>anymore....so your websites can send using any mail server.
>
>Darin.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>Well, I never received that email...
>
>I wouldn't have a problem keeping outbound connections on a non-standard
>port, except that my webserver uses it for my form-to-email pages on our
>website (my webserver is of course on the same machine as all these SMTP
>services too).  So I guess if I wanted this to work now I would need to get
>my webserver to use Imail's SMTP service instead of IIS SMTP - but that is 
>a
>topic for another thread (I think I saw a lot on how to get around this in
>the archives).
>
>Scott Smith
>Network Administrator
>248.489.1999
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>An ARC Company
>-------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>This thread branched off, but Sandy did indeed post this info in response 
>to
>your question.
>
>Yes it would cause a problem, as other mail servers would be listening on
>port 25, not 26.  You would need to change it back to port 25 if this is
>going to be outbound to the internet.
>
>Darin.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:32 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>Thank you.  I apologize for my ignorance, I thought you were referring to
>Sandy's response in this email thread regarding the location of the port
>setting (in which case what you've just explained was not mentioned
>already).
>
>So if I have to change the outbound connection port on IIS SMTP, would this
>cause problems if it becomes the SMTP service that actually sends my
>outgoing email to the Internet?  Or is the inbound port being the standard
>port 25 the only thing that matters here?
>
>Scott Smith
>Network Administrator
>248.489.1999
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>An ARC Company
>-------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>IIS 6:
>- Virtual Server Properties
>- Delivery Tab
>- Outbound Connections button
>- TCP Port
>
>IIS 5:
>- Virtual Server Properties
>- General Tab
>- Connection button
>- TCP port
>
>Note that these _are_ the outbound connection ports.  Inbound is specified
>elsewhere.
>
>Darin.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:07 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>Well, then could someone please explain exactly where the setting is,
>because I've looked all over the SMTP virtual server settings, and the
>settings for the remote domain in the virtual server, and I don't see where
>you can change the port number.  I've tried typing the IP address with a
>colon and the port number following, but it won't accept that as an
>address - there is no where else that a port number can be entered there.
>I'm not an idiot, and I'm telling you it isn't there.
>
>Scott Smith
>Network Administrator
>248.489.1999
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>An ARC Company
>-------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:48 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>Well, I just checked and the setting is exactly where Sandy said it was in
>IIS6, and I posted where it was in IIS5, so you have it available to you to
>redirect as you wanted.
>
>Darin.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Imail Forum" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:37 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>What I really need is for IIS SMTP to forward all messages it receives from
>the Internet to Imail SMTP, and this all needs to occur on the same
>computer.  Because IIS SMTP would be my main gateway, it has to listen on
>port 25, but I can only get it to forward to port 25, so I'm curious to see
>how I can get a utility to help me do this, because I'm having a hard time
>understanding it myself.
>
>Scott Smith
>Network Administrator
>248.489.1999
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>An ARC Company
>-------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike K @ NetDotCom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>There is a utility I am using called RelayTCP that does exactly that.
>
>Mike
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 17:58
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP gateway
>
>
>
>
>>No.  I would have IIS SMTP running on port 25, and Imail on port 26.  I
>>need
>>the IIS SMTP to forward to port 26 on 127.0.0.1, but it appears I can't
>>choose the port that it forwards to - it seems to want only to forward to
>>port 25.  Sounds like SMTP in Exchange will let you do this, but I am not
>>running Exchange.
>>
>>Does anyone have any ideas on how to get IIS SMTP to forward to 127.0.0.1
>>on
>>a port other than 25?  I am not going to install these on separate
>>machines,
>>so if this is not going to work I will have to try a 3rd party software
>>package that has it's own SMTP built in instead of relying on IIS SMTP.
>>
>>Scott Smith
>>Network Administrator
>>248.489.1999
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>Westside & Detroit Reprographics
>>An ARC Company
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>>
>>
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