I've seen hints of the bad. I've also seen what it takes to get off
  the spews.org blacklist, too. WOW! One really needs to bite their
  tongue! Spews takes sides with a moral issue than a technical issue.
  So, if you have been tainted with the presents of a Spammer, you
  have to rid your entire organization with any trace before you can
  be removed from the list.

On Wednesday, June 22, 2005 at 1:21:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated:

> If you think that's bad, you should check out the postfix list.
> Seriously, this is and has always been the most helpful list I subscribe
> to (and I subscribe to LOTS of lists).  Dan B's post is not really
> indicative of the rest of the list, even if his advice was spot on.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duane Hill
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:06 AM
> To: Dan Barker
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] advancedhiring.com


> On Wednesday, June 22, 2005 at 12:48:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> confabulated:

>> That's a great way to get YOU blacklisted, you spammer!

>   Look! There's no need for name calling here. I'm on this list for a
>   reason just like you. To learn from other people's experiences. I've
>   taken your advise below into consideration and will be moving in
>   that direction. Not only with IMail but our other MTAs as well. I
>   can see your point without the comment above. Your reaction has left
>   one more bad checkmark in my book about askingg or recommending
>   advise to this list in the future. I hold a pretty low profile on
>   this list as it is.

>> If it's not acceptable at receipt, REJECT it.

>> If it's determined later to be junk, DELETE it.

>> Bouncing spoofed email back to the poor sucker whose email has been
>> spoofed is EXTREMELY irresponsible. Change ALL those rules to DELETE
> immediately.
>> Some folks (myself included) object to being spammed, even from 
>> mail-admins that didn't "create" the original message. You DID 
>> "create" the NDR and it's just spam, plain and simple.

>> Dan Barker

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Duane Hill
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:19 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] advancedhiring.com



>> On Wednesday, June 22, 2005 at 11:21:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> confabulated:

>>> So you have it listed under 'Trusted DNS Blacklists' in IAdmin?

>>   Well, not in IMail. IMail doesn't BOUNCE a blacklisted host's
>>   messages prior to receiving the body of the message. That lends to
>>   say that IMail probably does not check the RBL list upon SMTP
>>   connection either. I could be wrong on this point. Therefore, one is
>>   only left with placing blacklists in the 'DNS Blacklists (insert
>>   X-Headers)' box and leaving IMail to insert an X header. Then bounce
>>   the message based on a rule. If IMail could bounce a message from a
>>   blacklisted host upon SMTP connection, you wouldn't have to waste
>>   the extra bandwidth of accepting the entire message into the server.

>>   The other two MTA's I'm currently using bounce blacklisted messages
>>   back to the 'MAIL FROM' upon SMTP connection.

>>> adamc

>>> Duane Hill wrote:
>>>>   Might try adding relays.ordb.org. Doesn't catch much for me
> because
>>>>   of other lists I have above this one. However, it is a tried and
>>>>   trusted open relay blacklist.

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