> It's  hard  to believe that from a programming standpoint that IMail
> couldn't  verify the sender's "reply to" and "mailed from" fields to
> see    if   these   email   addresses   exist   within   the   Imail
> Administrator/registry.

This  will  make no difference if the message is sent both FROM and TO
servers that you don't control. That's the traditional Joe Job method.

> Imail  knows  what email addresses have been created on this server,
> therefore why could it not conceivably verify these addresses to see
> if they are Joe Jobs before they are sent from my server?

Well,  they  are not usually sent from your server. If somebody really
wants  to  hurt  you,  they won't use your server to do it, unless the
idea  is to directly discredit your IP address, not simply your domain
and/or  your corporate image. True, if they do have AUTH creds on your
server,  that will enable them to circumvent SPF, not that SPF is such
a  fearsome  force right now! But sending through your server to makes
them  much  more  liable  to get caught and prosecuted, as you'll have
logs and thus some way of tracking them down.

> You  mention  SPF... funny, but in a SPF discussion list that I am a
> member  of  I  am  personally  being  ridiculed  for my inability to
> prevent mailfrom forgeries, Joe Jobs, and cross-user forgeries.

Ridiculed?.  . . well, that's sad. I still keep my SPF-Discuss e-mails
for  the  technical  info, but I mark them as read automatically so as
not to be distracted by the foolishness on that list.

> But  that's  not  what I am referring to. I'm not interested in what
> other  MTA's  do.  I  simply  want  to prevent my own customers from
> signing  into  my  IMail  server  with  a username/password and then
> sending email with an invalid "reply to" / "mailed from" data.

To  do  this,  you'll  need  to (a) upgrade your IMail version and (b)
write  a  script  to  match  up  the  AUTH username with the MAIL FROM
username. Unless this was added in 8.2, it isn't a built-in test. Now,
there's  no  good  reason  for it not be an _option_, but bear in mind
that  non-matching  AUTH  and  MAIL FROM accounts do not 100% indicate
malfeasance.  One  has to allow for whitelisting this test for various
reasons.  Note  that  IMail  8.x does include the ability to check for
valid  local  MAIL  FROM  addresses,  preventing the use of fake local
accounts when submitting locally.

--Sandy


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Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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