Yes I am running 8.2. Looking back at archived emails, from before the upgrade, I found that they do have the X-RCPT-TO line. Question for Ipswitch: Was this header removed in 8.2? If so, why? Can it be put back?
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account Very strange indeed! I can think of only two explainations. 1, you are on 8.20, I'm on 8.15.hf2. 2, you ARE running Declude. maybe it's doing something to/with the X-RCPT-TO. Here's full headers of YOUR message<g>. Note, I wrote the program that stuck in the X-Envelope-From: through X-IMail-Queuename lines, and then IMail 8.15.hf2 put in the next 3 lines. Possibly AFTER the rules processing, tho. This is becomming very interesting! Dan Barker Received: from list.ipswitch.com [156.21.1.21] by visioncomm.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id A73F3700CA; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:20:47 -0400 Received: from mail.taisweb.net [68.118.153.2] by list.ipswitch.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.20) id A8DF0188; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:27:43 -0400 Received: from ex1.wilcoxent.net [172.20.1.15] by mail.taisweb.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.20) id A6E40284; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:19:16 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:19:16 -0400 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account Thread-Index: AcWBZ7u+qfakZVNyTvCVqYMWgypc2AAAqv6A From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [172.20.1.15] X-Declude-Spoolname: D96E401A40000157F.SMD X-Note: ================================================================== X-Note: Spam Score: 0 X-Note: Scan Time: 10:20:14 on 05 Jul 2005 X-Note: Spool File: D96E401A40000157F.SMD X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Note: Server Name: ex1.wilcoxent.net X-Note: Reverse DNS & IP: (Private IP) [172.20.1.15] X-Note: Organization: taisweb.net X-Note: Tests-Failed: Whitelisted X-Note: ================================================================== X-Note: This E-mail was scanned & filtered by Declude [2.0.6] for SPAM & virus. X-Note: Spam and virus blocking services provided by TAISWeb.com X-Note: Report abuse to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Note: Support questions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Note: ================================================================== Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Envelope-From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on mail.visioncomm.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_40 autolearn=no version=3.0.1 X-IMail-Queuename:<973e003700ca7866> X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Status: U X-UIDL: 420082450 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Horne Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account Full headers of the last message you sent to the list follow. As you can see, there is no X-RCPT-TO: header. In this particular message (and all list traffic, I assume), my domain name (@taisweb.net) doesn't even appear in the To: line, meaning this message wouldn't be archived either with a rule matching @taisweb.net in the TO: line. This presents still ANOTHER problem. Is there ANY reliable way to separate out the recipient domains in the copyall account? We can't archive ALL emails because we have doctors and lawyers as customers that have confidentiality concerns, but we need to archive all mails for at least 5 of our domains. My thought, of course, was to use copyall and Imail rules to match the domain name, deleting anything that doesn't match. This solution seems to be filled with holes though. Postfix does this perfectly with recipient_bcc_maps, but I can't send traffic that is local to Imail through postfix (well, I suppose I could have all my users send all their emails through postfix instead of Imail, but then I have to hike through hell and back to configure postfix to auth Imail users, probably via LDAP, if that can even be done). Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from mail.taisweb.net ([68.118.153.2]) by ex1.wilcoxent.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:44:58 -0400 Received: from SMTP32-FWD by mail.taisweb.net (SMTP32) id A8E9D01A900001222; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:44:57 Received: from mx2.rmslink.net [68.118.154.7] by mail.taisweb.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.20) id AE9D02B4; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:43:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.rmslink.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DCD3981F; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.ipswitch.com (list.ipswitch.com [156.21.1.21]) by mx2.rmslink.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F05F3981E; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from visioncomm.net [63.171.93.5] by list.ipswitch.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.20) id AFDA00F4; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:49:14 -0400 Received: from dan [172.27.0.30] by visioncomm.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id AE195D00D4; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:41:45 -0400 From: "Dan Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:41:54 -0400 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.0 (20050424) at taisweb.net X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [156.21.1.21] X-Declude-Spoolname: D8E9D01A900001222.SMD X-Note: ================================================================== X-Note: Spam Score: 0 [FLAGGED ON 16+, HELD ON 20+ & DELETED ON 60+] X-Note: Scan Time: 09:44:56 on 05 Jul 2005 X-Note: Spool File: D8E9D01A900001222.SMD X-Note: Server Name: list.ipswitch.com X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Note: Reverse DNS & IP: list.ipswitch.com [156.21.1.21] X-Note: Country Chain: UNITED STATES->destination X-Note: Tests-Failed: Whitelisted X-Note: ================================================================== X-Note: This E-mail was scanned & filtered by Declude [2.0.6] for SPAM & virus. X-Note: Spam and virus blocking services provided by TAISWeb.com X-Note: ================================================================== Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2005 13:44:58.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBADC7B0:01C58167] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account The BCC'd X-RCPT-To is in the BCC recipient's email, but NOT in the CC or TO. All emails eventually turn into a RCPT TO, and by convention, only TO and CC are reflected in the headers out "in the wild". After IMail has received the message, only then does the BCC name get stuck in only that recipient's copy of the message. All my messages have X-RCPT-TO in them, and I don't run Declude. Check some headers and see if they are in there. I'm on 8.15hf2. Dan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Horne Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account Sorry, but there's no such monster in my headers. I know I can use Declude to add the something like that to the headers, but a lot of our clients (lawyers and doctors) complained about that because it effectively "broke" (in their opinion) BCC:'s by revealing everyone that was getting the message in the headers. For that reason we removed them. So I can live without BCC's in the archive, but I need an Imail rule that will catch @example.com in the CC: line. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account X-RCPT-TO: <email-address> should be in the headers for TO, CC or BCC. Dan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Horne Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account OK, but Imail allows you to filter on the TO or the complete HEADERS, but not the CC: (from within the Imail Admin GUI). How can I set up a rule to filter on CC:? I assume I will never be able to filter on BCC: since that doesn't show in the headers. I know I can edit the filter file manually and use regexps, but I am NOT in my comfort zone when it comes to writing regexps. Can someone give me an example of an Imail rule that would match "@example.com" in the CC: line? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here, but it sounds like you need three rules, one for To, one for CC, and one for BCC. Or did I miss something? Dan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Horne Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account Wow, did I stump the list? No one has a way to make this work? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IMail Forum] Imail rules on Copyall account Say I set up rules on the copyall account to send all emails to anyone @example.com to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox. If I use a "To" rule, I miss everything sent with cc: or bcc:. If I match @example.com in the full headers, I risk confusion and mail going to the wrong mailboxes. For example, say I host both example.com and example.net, and archive email for both. If someone at example.com sends an email to someone at example.net, the message goes into both archives, even though we are supposed to be archiving only received email, not sent (not really such a bad thing). If I, as their host, send an email to my boss with a subject containing example.com, it goes into example.com's archive (really bad news). I'm sure there are many other ways for messages to get stored in the wrong mailbox based on searching the full headers for @example.com. Is there a way to do this right? Alternatively, I have a postfix gateway and have experimented successfully with recipient_bcc_maps That works exactly the way I want it to, but of course it doesn't see any mail that is local to the Imail server. So intra-domain email is not archived. If Imail rules won't work right, is there any way to force Imail to send ALL email through a gateway, even local mails that will just come right back to Imail? 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