Larry Osterman wrote...

> There must be interest in adding NTLM support, Marek asked if there are
> open-source servers that support NTLM. 

I said nobody wanted it badly enough - yes Marek is one of the few who are
interested - we'll have to wait and see if he contributes any patches to
add NTLM authentication to open source projects.

> If I could contribute patches
> without losing my job, I would, but since I'll be fired if I contribute
> patches to an open source project, I'll respectfully decline

Wow - where can I apply?  I'm sure that with such a terrific environment I
could turn out really high quality software.  It seems that your employer
isn't very interested in supporting interoperability with open source
software at all.

> (if you
> really care, we can discuss what the GPL does to the ability of
> professional software developers to contribute to GPL licensed projects
> OFFLINE).

No thanks - I have no interest in the GPL.  I do find it interesting that
you use GPL interchangably with "open source" though.

> Immediately below the .DOC file that you point out is a "Get Office file
> viewer" link.  If you follow that link, you will be pointed to the page
> that includes the stand-alone word file viewer, it runs on any Win32
> platform.  Please look a little closer before you flame.

Sit down and take a deep breath Larry... I don't have a Win32 platform.
The documentation you offered is not very accessible, and represents a
hurdle.  Again, I wonder just how interested you and your employer are in
wide acceptance of NTLM.

> And I gave you a pointer to the first on-the-web version of the
> documentation I found.  If you want a different one, try
> http://search.microsoft.com/gomsuri.asp?n=2&c=rp_Results&siteid=us/dev&t
> arget=http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/security/Security/sspi_fun
> ctions.asp 

Thank you, but there doesn't appear to be a good description of NTLM as an
authentication mechanism there at all - just more layers of proprietary
obfuscation.  I will need documentation of how I can implement the NTLM
mechanism such that this added functionality in my software will be
available for all target platforms.

> This is NOT rocket science - it took me all of 45 seconds of looking at
> the msdn.microsoft.com web site to find it.

Let me know when you find a URL for an RFC.  Until that time, I think
we're just wasting everyone's time with old information - for a while
there I thought you genuinely wanted to see NTLM adopted as an IMAP
authentication mechanism in more open source projects.

-- 
Pete Naylor

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