Thank you len for your detailed reply.

So, from what your saying, I got blocked by hotmail not because of SAV, but
because of postfix sending "email address does not exist" bounce messages to
non-existent hotmail accounts.

So adding "reject_unverified_recipient" would make postfix reject it
immediately and not send a bounce message back to hotmail ?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [IMGate] Re: Being used to do harvest hotmail accounts?


>Here are a few more lines from the log directly and not from mailq, I still
>think its related to SAV, or this is how its appearing to me, because its
>not by someone trying to send through me, its happening because someone is
>sending to me by a forged hotmail account

>Apr  6 23:47:17 imgate postfix/qmgr[60489]: D72052C091:
>from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=3816, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

... msg accepted by postfix and queued.


>Apr  6 23:47:17 imgate postfix/smtp[58737]: D72052C091:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>relay=x.x.x.75[x.x.x.75]:25, delay=7.3, delays=7.3/0/0/0.01, dsn=5.0.0,
>status=bounced (host x.x.x.75[x.x.x.75] said: 550 unknown user
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (in reply to RCPT TO command))

.... that is postfix tried to deliver the msg but it was bounced by 
your mailserver.

>Apr  6 23:47:17 imgate postfix/bounce[58948]: D72052C091: sender
>non-delivery notification: B043F2C082

... postfix creates a non-delivery msg back to the garbage/forged 
sender [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is rejected by hotmail as 
unknown recipient.


SAV logs as "reject: sender address rejected", which you don't show.


>My log has a ton of these the but the destination "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and from
>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" keep on changing.
>
>It actually looks like a brute force spam effort against my domain as the
>retries keep on progressing alphabetically, and the indirect cause of this
>got me black listed by hotmail because imgate was trying to verify if the
>sender exists (SAV) which I thought I had disabled.

SAV is not in the log lines above.

>Now other than making sure SAV is really turned off, how do I prevent this
>from happening ?

postfix must reject incoming mail for recipients that do not exist on 
your mail server. above, it accepted a msg for [EMAIL PROTECTED] which 
your mail server bounced.

either export the list of legit users to postfix, or use 
reject_unverified_recipient.

Len





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