>Well, this makes it official, regretfully monkeys.com is now gone.

There is a proposal to have ALL RBL servers approve ALL IPs as non-spam for 
one week, so MX's using RBL servers will get inundated with spam. ie, RBL 
servers would be useless for one week.

Those of you who depend on RBL servers for most of your MX defense need to 
pay attention to what's happening, since it may get very nasty for you for 
1 week, or longer.

Also, those you who snicker and deride my subscriber filter should 
understand it is TOTALLY INSANE to accept indfinitely that 99+% of msgs 
from subscriber networks is spam.  rr, shaw, comcast, attbi, telus, 
adelphia, etc, MUST stop the THEIR spew, or we will.

The subscriber networks operators MUST be held accountable for the spew.

yeah, yeah, I know. Your suits and users would much rather put up with the 
INCREASING insanity forever.  But in the end, it is those very same people 
who value email so much that will lose.

The other tactic is to insist on impeccable SMTP/DNS credentials from every 
IP before accepting mail.  Credentials are easy to establish. Legit servers 
who can't put together the credentials should get out of the mail business, 
period. They are either incompetent, stupid, or don't care.  There is no 
excuse for crappy credentials.    Why should we give legit servers a pass 
so they can continue to have an SMTP/DNS profile that looks exactly like or 
too close to spammer "credentials", putting the burden on us to dig deeper 
to see if they are legit?

People who depend totally on RBL servers as the bulwark of their defenses 
may be in for a very bad shock.

Len


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