Duh! Thanks for pointing that out.
Found a link [ http://support.lyris.com/db/16/16088.html ] on Lyris
documenting ISPs blocking based on the numerical HELO and their support
instructing how to change to FQDN.

Gonna send that off to them.

Thanks Len


-----Original Message-----
From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMGate] Re: IP as HELO




>Well these tards appearently don't feel that a single compaint is 
>enough to make them start following standards.

tx1# telnet 198.64.149.39 25
Trying 198.64.149.39...
Connected to M1VE02.jda001.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 198.64.149.39 ESMTP Lyris MailEngine v2.1a service ready quit

>I am very happy blocking them

They spent the big $$$ for Lyris and they don't want to assure maximum 
delivery success by having their DNS + SMTP credentials in highest order?

If you can get away with it, stick by your guns.  You'd be doing the Lyris 
admin a big favor if he would get his ducks in a row.  And it would be a 
lot easier for you if more MX admins insisted on compliance.

Len


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