If you're using restriction_classes that requires a HELO msn.com to have a

1) PTR hostname

AND

2) PTR hostname containing msn.com (or hotmail.com).

... then beware that MS has not set up their reverse zone for their 
"groups" outbound:

unknown[65.54.195.209]: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
helo=<p01.groups.msn.com>

unknown[65.54.195.209]: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
helo=<p01.groups.msn.com>

unknown[65.54.195.209]: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
helo=<p01.groups.msn.com>

unknown[65.54.195.210]: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  helo=<p02.groups.msn.com>

unknown[65.54.195.210]: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
helo=<p02.groups.msn.com>

if you then see WTF that reverse zone is,you see it really good ol Internet 
savvy MS:

# dig -x 65.54.195

; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> -x
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 6, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 5
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      195.54.65.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
195.54.65.in-addr.arpa.  49m21s IN SOA  dns.cp.msft.net. 
msnhst.microsoft.com. (
                                         2003072401      ; serial
                                         30M             ; refresh
                                         15M             ; retry
                                         11w6d8h         ; expiry
                                         1H )            ; minimum

I guess they ran out of money to pay competent for competent DNS 
administration.

Len


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