>Nov 18 02:51:28 mx1 postfix1/smtpd[47333]: 4A4091FBB02: reject_warning: RCPT
>from cpe-24-107-232-14.ma.charter.com[24.107.232.14]: 554
><cpe-24-107-232-14.ma.charter.com[24.107.232.14]>: Client host rejected:
>1tuple, cpe-24-107-232-14.ma.charter.com;
>from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>proto=ESMTP helo=<declude.com>
>
>Still has .ma.charter.com

ok, but I know and checked what I saw, three declude sender+helo messages 
in a report with no PTR.

whatever, but the idea of running without a PTR vs a subscriber PTR is 
interesting, and may be slightly advantageous, but both are bad.

Len


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