Another possible solution here is to also support the same attributes
that are supported in the encounterProvider tag - eg. allow specifying
users with particular roles or comma-separated lists of persons. This
would be nice for backwards compatibility, and although not strictly
"correct", would still work - eg. it would return all Providers who are
persons with associated user accounts that have certain roles or certain
usernames...
Mike
On 05/10/2012 01:39 PM, Mark Goodrich wrote:
In the Provider Management module we ended up adding providerRole
directly on to the Provider object, so if that ends up getting rolled
into core we should add providerRoles attribute. If it doesn't get
into rolled into core perhaps we could add the attribute anyway and
handle it via reflection.
Regardless, your providerAttributes tag sounds like a good idea.
The simplest feature would be to add a providers attribute which
allows you to specify providers via id or uuid.
@James: can you enter a ticket for this?
Mark
*From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
Behalf Of *Darius Jazayeri
*Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:52 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [OPENMRS-IMPLEMENTERS] Providers/Encounter Roles in
OpenMRS 1.9
Hi James,
Correct, we expect to improve the providerAndRole tag in HTML Form Entry.
One thing we could do today is allow you to specify a provider
attribute type and value, and only search for providers with that
specific value.
E.g. you could create a Provider Attribute Type called "Role", and
then do something like|<encounterProviderAndRole
encounterRole="1"|providerAttributes="Role=Surgeon" |/>|
@Mark, is there an approach like this that would be consistent with
the work you're doing on a Provider Management module?
-Darius
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:34 AM, James Arbaugh <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thank you Burke and Mark! I'm encouraged to understand that this is a
work-in-progress.
I played with the <encounterProviderAndRole encounterRole="1" > tag in
the HTML Form Entry module. It seems to work as described. The
current shortcoming I find is there isn't a way to limit the list of
providers, that are shown. So, for example on my surgery form, I
include one of these tags for my encounter role of Surgeon, and
another one for the encounter role of Scrub Nurse. But, the list to
choose from for each of these includes all 183 providers in my
system. So, I could choose a Provider as a Surgeon who isn't really a
surgeon. There needs to be a way to limit the list of Providers shown
to minimize data entry errors. Like we used to do it...
<encounterProvider role="Provider"/> or <encounterProvider
persons="username1,username2"/>. I assume this functionality is a
coming attraction for <encounterProviderAndRole/> once the provider
roles are implemented!
Thanks,
James
*From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>]
*On Behalf Of *Burke Mamlin
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:01 PM
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [OPENMRS-IMPLEMENTERS] Providers/Encounter Roles in
OpenMRS 1.9
Mark is spot on. The purpose of encounter role was to define the
provider's role /within the encounter/ -- e.g., Lead Surgeon, Primary
Physician, Consulting Physician, Backup Nurse, etc. Our model for it
<https://wiki.openmrs.org/x/FQHI> included the notion of defining
which roles are needed by encounter type, but this along with the
mapping of encounter roles to provider role(s) was deferred for the
sake of not over-modeling up front.
The first pass was to allow for OpenMRS to accept multiple providers
per encounter. The constraints can be provided by widgets, modules,
and/or external applications for now and, based on need/priority, we
can include these constraints into core.
FWIW, on today's design call, in preparation for the upcoming sprint
on roles & privileges, we discussed implementing organizational roles
<https://wiki.openmrs.org/x/FoYHAQ>, which could replace a provider
attribute as a means to defining the official role (job title) of
various providers (Surgeon, Oncologist, Gastroenterologist, etc.).
-Burke
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Mark Goodrich <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
James---
Burke can explain this more detail, but, if I understand correctly,
there is meant to a difference between an encounter role and a (as yet
undefined) provider role. I think Burke's example is that a provider
could have a provider role of "Surgeon", but they might have an
encounter role of "Lead Surgeon" on one encounter and "Assistant
Surgeon" on another.
I'm not quite sure how this will work in practice... we are currently
working on a Provider Management module which adds the idea of a
provider role, which was more important for us. I could see in the
future a provider role having a many-to-many mapping to encounter
role, indicating what encounter roles a certain provider role can
serve as.
But, yes, right now I don't believe there is much of a correlation
between encounter role and provider, which was confusing to me.
You can, however, in Html Form Entry, specify an encounter role via an
encounterRole attribute on the encounterProviderAndRole tag to create
a widget to select a provider for a specific role.
Mark
*From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>]
*On Behalf Of *James Arbaugh
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2012 4:56 PM
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* [OPENMRS-IMPLEMENTERS] Providers/Encounter Roles in OpenMRS 1.9
Greetings all!
With the introduction of (Multiple) Providers in OpenMRS 1.9, I'm
still trying to grasp how it works. Specifically, how do the
Encounter Roles relate to the Providers. It seems the Role would be a
Provider Attribute. It seems Manage Encounter Roles would be called
Manage Provider Roles, and be under the Provider section so you could
identify which roles a given provider can play.
When I go to Manage Encounters, Add Encounter, and click Add Provider,
I am required to choose a Role, and I can then enter the Provider
Name. So, I've created an Encounter Role called Surgeon, and selected
it, but it will allow me to choose a Provider Name that is not a
Surgeon. There is no correlation between the role and the provider.
It would be more convenient if you didn't have to click "Add Provider"
for the first provider since it's a required field. "At least one
provider is required." It would also be convenient if a default role
could be automatically selected.
Thanks in advance for helping me make sense of these things.
Thanks,
James
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