Carol - The import is frozen right now, I've stopped all importing from the side of the MapBox team for now (that's lxbarth Rub21, ediyes). I've also given ingalls a heads up who I asked to start importing for testing too. The NYC import task is closed and remains closed for now. If you (or anyone else experienced with OSM data) would like to lend a hand, reviewing and validating tasks on http://tasks.openstreetmap.us/job/2 would be _very_ helpful.
Look out for the errors Serge described and anything else you find. Quick screenshots of errors and links to changesets would be _great_. I'd prefer reports as issues on Github https://github.com/osmlab/nycbuildings/issues - where it's easiest to work them off. - Any conversion or source data problems you find should be captured in one issue per bug - It's fine to just post a summary ticket of any mapping practice issues you find Thank you - Alex On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Carol Kraemer < [email protected]> wrote: > Good morning importers, > > Given some of the things I've been reading here, would perhaps putting a > freeze on the NYC import be best so that the process could be re-evaluated > and modified to resolve some of the issues you are experiencing? I would be > more than happy to help with looking at the current process and offering my > observations and suggestions if you were open to that. I admit to not being > ready for actually helping with the importing but perhaps this could be my > contribution as a way of understanding the complexities surrounding OSM > imports. > > -Carol > > > ------------------------------------- > Carol Kraemer > North River Geographic Systems, Inc > http://www.northrivergeographic.com > 404.431.0125 [email protected] > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Serge Wroclawski <[email protected]>wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Alex Barth <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Serge Wroclawski <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> MapBox employee edits have been of bad quality, done extremely rapidly >>>> with lots of errors, tons of omissions. In nearly every single task I've >>>> examined from a MapBox rapid mapper, I've found errors or omissions in the >>>> data, and these edits in aggregate account for 88% of the total completed >>>> tasks. >>> >>> >>> Those are some tough allegations. As someone from the MapBox team I'd >>> love concrete instances of errors and omissions. >>> >> >> The same exact issues we found last time we had a meeting and talked >> about this. The issues are: >> >> 1. Geometry validation errors >> 2. Buildings which are obviously missing from the data but appear in the >> imagery >> 3. Buildings which have incorrect geometry based in the NYC data based on >> the imagery >> 4. Addresses which look "odd" and need further investigation >> >> As we discussed just two weeks ago- I can complain about these issues one >> by one, but that clearly doesn't address the problem, because the errors >> keep happening from the same users. >> >> We've consistently improved where I got concrete feedback [1]. As just >>> discussed on IM, just concrete examples (w/ changeset, link to osm.org) >>> of what you're finding so far would be great. Again, I am committed in >>> making this a stellar import. >>> >> >> That would only be possible to do if the pace of the validation was in >> line with the pace of the import, but if there are users who continue to do >> sloppy work, you simply make the burden on the validators even greater. >> >> Ideally issues you or anyone else finds is posted to Github, where it's >>> easiest to track and work off. >>> >>> https://github.com/osmlab/nycbuildings/issues?page=1&state=open >>> >> >> The problems are systemic, not individual. Asking me to fix address each >> and every single of them is simply a way to stall for time, while the >> problem continues. >> >> >>> Next, I would love to open the import task on the tasking manager to >>> everyone again (I sent a note to Serge, Eric and Liz on this last week). >>> This is a blocker for NYC community not engaging the way it could right now. >>> >> >> The damage to NYC has been quite extensive, and you aren't addressing it. >> >> - Serge >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Imports-us mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports-us >> >> >
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