Hi, Sorry to jump so late into this discussion. Actually I am waiting for an answer from the imports list since Mid May. I put it below. So we would like to know if in the case of using a ODbL compatible dataset as a guide for tracing over Bing Imagery (because of the lack of geometrical accuracy) + get some attributes (road names or ID, etc.) is considered as coming under the usual import pattern (including a specific import user account) or not.
Sincerely, Severin > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:54:08 -0300 > From: S?verin MENARD <[email protected]> > To: Paul Norman <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Imports] Import of UNICEF health facilities data for > Central African Republic > Message-ID: > <CA+y5pBKt8kU791X6DYH=UY_pshmkAcPeVXZ= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi Paul, > > Thank you very much for your answer. My comments inline > > > > > The WRI data is more complicated, and you might want to consider doing > the > > UNICEF import before it. > > > Definitely. The data is generally too inaccurate to be imported (eg > 300-1000m for the roads from the reality provided by the high res Bing > imagery), but can be used as a guide for tracing > Actually we would like to be sure if only used as a guide with sometimes some attributes (eg name) copy and paste on the freshly-new-traced vector data from Bing imager, it is not considered as an import. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:58:14 +0200 > From: Simeon <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HOT] Central african republic import > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Hi, > > First: Thanks for your quick and elaborate response. > Contrary to what I wrote before, the road I meant didnt disappear, it was > downgraded to a path and > the rest left as a secondary. But this still explaines one of the problems > with imports: > > You can do them automatically (using a separate account as it falls under > the mechanical edit policy > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy - at least > thats how I understood it), > but what do you do with the roads/rivers/places that are already there? > Especially if, like in this case, the data to be imported is from 2009 (at > leastthats what the > source tag says) and the Bing pictures are from 2003 (according to the > bing aerial image analyzer). > Many helpers like myself have used those images to trace various things > and will continue to do so; > so there could be discrepancies. > > Can we limit this task to "well-seasoned mappers". Or do we have enough > people willing and able to > get the job done using some kind of private task manager not open to the > general public? > > Whatever may happen, I am suer we can all agree that we should take all > the data, help and people to > help we can get. > > Regards, > > Simeon > Am 13.06.2013 13:26, schrieb Ben Abelshausen: > > Hi, > > > > This import was started as part of the EUROSHA project for the Central > African Republic and after > > the rebellion. The data being imported is served with the task, a new > feature for the tasking > > manager that we developed while in Cameroon. The data of the WRI can be > served with the task as a > > mapping aid. > > > > This is for now, an experiment but is meant to be executed I guess. I'm > sure that Severin Menard, > > the lead for HOT on this project, can also tell you something more about > this. > > > > As far as I know there is some confusion about this task, a few of the > blocking issues: > > > > - Do we need to use a seperate import account? (the import list is not > very responsive) > > - Is the WRI data suited for this? Maybe partly using the data is > something we can do. > > - This task is meant for well-seasoned mappers, is this something we can > expect? > > > > This is my view on this little project and it's a bit sad to have all > this data for a mostly > > completely unmapped and from a humanitarian perspective very difficult > country and not use it. I > > think we should take every chance we get to improve the map for the CAR. > > > > If you have some suggestions on this, your thoughts are very very > welcome on how to do this better. > > > > Met vriendelijke groeten, > > Best regards, > > > > Ben Abelshausen > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://twitter.com/xivk > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Simeon <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know if the WRI import already started? > > There is a wiki page: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_WRI_Data > > and a task: > > http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/219. > > Although the task says that its only a test, someone started to > import roads around N'Dele: > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.39936&lon=20.69708&zoom=15&layers=M > > The track there appears on my tiles as a teriary road, but in the > dataset there is nothing > > left but a new track with access=no. For me thats a strange > combination, but the wiki pages > > says so. > > >From tha satelite image, this road is bigger than a track and > comtinues further than the import. > > > > I dont want to step on anyones toes, its just that I am confused why > some roads disappeared > > and that I havent heard anything about this import. > > > > Regards, > > > > Theodin > >
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