Personally, I agree that source generally should belong in the changeset as it can appear to waste space and appear superfluous in tags. However, I understand sympathize with users still utilizing it.
For example, you cannot query changeset tags in the OSM API yet http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2013-May/027021.html Mappers, especially less technically advanced ones, are less motivated to use new techniques if makes other work harder to do. Regards, Will On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Imports mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Imports digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IBGE license statement (Eric Ladner) > 2. Re: IBGE license statement (Andy Allan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 16:45:46 -0500 > From: Eric Ladner <[email protected]> > To: Svavar Kjarrval <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Imports] IBGE license statement > Message-ID: > <CAJdJeijFSR8fHH-t5bWfv1XkC8-6wnttgTjjLhvUj=_ > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Worst case, put a "source:IBGE" on every imported item (which technically > should be there anyway). > > (sorry, forgot to reply all) > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Svavar Kjarrval <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > I don't think they understand the term public domain. If there are any > > restrictions on the usage of data based on copyright, like mentioning > > the source, then there are copyright restrictions. But if there are no > > other restrictions, despite their misunderstanding of the public domain, > > there should be no license incompatibilities. > > > > With regards, > > Svavar Kjarrval > > > > On 01/07/13 05:07, Fernando Trebien wrote: > > > The following message contains a statement that all of IBGE's data is > > > in "public domain". The original message is in Portuguese this is an > > > accurate translation: > > > > > > "Customer Number: # 8171/2009 - 1 # > > > Dear Sir/Lady, > > > > > > We should inform you that the contents available in our web portal are > > > in the public domain. However, its use in other publications or > > > portals is subject to mention of the source upon using our data. > > > > > > You can reproduce the graphics, as well as art and images that > > > accompany them, by quoting the source (IBGE)." > > > > > > Moreover, IBGE (Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics) is > > > part of the public federal administration of Brazil, and therefore is > > > subject to the "law of access to information" > > > ( > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lei_de_acesso_%C3%A0_informa%C3%A7%C3%A3o) > > > which grants access to institutional data to any citizen upon request. > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Vitor George <[email protected]> > > > Date: 2013/7/1 > > > Subject: Posi??o do IBGE sobre os dados dispon?veis no seu portal. > > > To: [email protected], OSM talk-br <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > Pessoal, > > > > > > Segue a resposta do IBGE que tive quando perguntei se os dados do site > > > eram de dom?nio p?blico. > > > > > > Acho que pode ser ?til caso haja algum questionamento sobre os dados > > > do IBGE usados no OpenStreetMap. > > > > > > Vitor > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Atendimento IBGE <[email protected]> > > > Date: 2009/1/8 > > > Subject: D?vidas sobre as informa??es divulgadas no site Atendimento > > > Numero:#8171/2009 - 1# > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > Atendimento Numero:#8171/2009 - 1# > > > Prezado(a) Senhor(a), > > > > > > Cumpre-nos informar que os conte?dos inseridos no nosso Portal, s?o de > > > dom?nio p?blico. Entretanto a sua utiliza??o, em outros Portais ou > > > publica??es, est? condicionada a cita??o da fonte , quando da > > > utiliza??o dos nossos dados. > > > > > > ? poss?vel a reprodu??o dos gr?ficos, bem como da arte e das imagens > > > que os acompanham , mediante a cita??o da fonte( IBGE). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atenciosamente, > > > Equipe de Atendimento > > > ======================================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Imports mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports > > > > > > > -- > Eric Ladner > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/attachments/20130706/0ce7f865/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 10:33:56 +0100 > From: Andy Allan <[email protected]> > To: Eric Ladner <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Imports] IBGE license statement > Message-ID: > < > cajmusvjs5ihmxjs2vzuj-y84qgh4uswbnof7_amnh61ekxx...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 6 July 2013 22:45, Eric Ladner <[email protected]> wrote: > > Worst case, put a "source:IBGE" on every imported item (which technically > > should be there anyway). > > No, please don't do that. > > As discussed on other threads, the correct place to provide > attribution is on http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright and the > associated wiki page, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors > > If you want to provide sources for the entities in the bulk import, > then do so using a tag on the changeset. It uses approximately > 1/50,000th of the space in the database. > > Further, since it's only the first version of the entity that comes > from the bulk import, that source for that version can be > automatically traced via the changeset, and saves us waiting 6 months > before adding it to the ever-growing list of > tags-to-automatically-strip-in-editors. > > In summary, the entities created in a bulk import should contain the > absolute minimal set of tags. The changesets are an appropriate place > for any necessary metadata regarding the import. > > Thanks, > Andy > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Imports mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports > > > End of Imports Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4 > ************************************** >
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