Hi Andreas, This all looks good. I have one more request. Could you update the public transport wiki pages to include the ref:IFOPT tag. It looks like you will be the first person using this tag.
Thanks Jason On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Andreas Uller <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear List, > > I have taken into account your comments as well as those from the > talk-transit mailing list > (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-transit/2013-December/001663.html > and answers), so the following has changed since my last message: > > - No automated import, instead upload all platforms "by hand", so they can be > checked for plausability and the stop_positions and stop_areas can be created > right away. This way, one can say afterwards that all public transport stops > are present in OSM in the way they should be. > - The global ID will be kept as ref:IFOPT, an internationally used ID for > public transport, all other IDs will be dismissed. > - The is_in is dropped, instead the village in which the platform is, is > added as alt_name="Village Name_of_stop". > > I have made a test run in the city of Bruck an der Mur (chosen because some > bus stops were already mapped (by different mappers) and some were missing) > to look for any problems, which I didn't find (Changeset: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19479901). > > I think this is a good way to improve the data in OSM. > > Andreas > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. November 2013 um 04:09 Uhr > Von: "Andreas Uller" <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Betreff: [Imports] Import of public transport platforms in Styria (Austria) > Dear List, > > We have received the position of all public transport platforms in the > Austrian province of Styria from the company responsible for managing public > transport ("Steirische Verkehrsverbund GmbH"). > > I have put together all information on the following page in the wiki: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Austria/Import_Haltestellen_Steiermark > (with all relevant information in German and English). > > A short outline of the plan: > All positions where no platform in a certain area (e.g. 100 m) around the > available points are present in OSM, would be imported directly into OSM, > probably using JOSM. All others will have to checked and merged manually. > This has already been successfully done with an import of all doctors in > Styria. > > A downside of the data provided is, that there are some platforms included > which are no longer used (they were used during a detour of a route or the > route has been dismissed). However, most of this disused platforms will be in > the capital city of Graz, where I and other users know, which stops are the > ones disused, so they can be excluded during the manual import (all platforms > in Graz should already be mapped, so this area can be excluded from an > automated import). In the end, there will probably only be a handful of > disused platforms in the end. On the long run, all bus routes should be > mapped; then it will be easy to find unused platforms. > > Also included on the wiki page is a suggestion on how to use the provided > attributes and turn them into OSM-key/value pairs. > Here, a point is unclear to me: There are varoius IDs provided, one is a > "global, unique" ID for each platform (Europe-wide normed "IFOPT" number). > Should this be imported to OSM (as ref=* or something different?) in case we > later receive open timetable or realtime data which needs to be connected to > the stops? Or are there other ways to match timetable data to platforms? > These IDs are not visible to anyone standing at the bus stop and I have not > yet encountered them anywhere else than in that file - from what I've read so > far this is a strong reason not to include them. However, I want to be sure > we don't need them later. > > Any feedback is welcome. > > Andreas > > _______________________________________________ > Imports mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports[https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports] > > _______________________________________________ > Imports mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports _______________________________________________ Imports mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
