Hi, Sending this pending message again.
Sincerely, Severin On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Severin MENARD <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Paul, > > > On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Paul Norman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > From: Severin MENARD [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 6:52 AM >> > Subject: [HOT] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import >> of >> UNICEF data? >> > >> > Hi Paul, >> > >> > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2590517305 >> > >> > I had a look at this and there are a number of tags which are not in the >> > Proposal which was consulted on with imports@. >> > >> > Please hold off doing any more of these imports until these issues get >> > Resolved, or the changes are consulted on. >> >> > What are these tags? Only the three admin levels? I figured out they >> > were in the data (We were three people to process the data along the >> > workflow and seems we missed this) and actually not in what had been >> > described in the wikipage so I added it a few days ago in the wikipage, >> > thinking it was not a big deal. The key may be improved though, what do >> > you think? Otherwise, I also added what had been considered by us from >> > the beginning after discussion with UNICEF. >> >> The issue is that what was done was not what was proposed. >> http://www.osm.org/user_blocks/425 >> lists a couple of the issues. This list is not necessarily exhaustive. >> There is also the issue of the fixme, as a new issue that was missed >> during the consultation before. >> > OK let us be constructive and go forward. I will list all the issues I can > identify. Please add others if you see more, because I guess to be able to > import again, the issues will have necessarily to be solved exhaustively. > > 1. Health > Facilities<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_UNICEF_FOSA> > > > The fixme for longitude,latitude was proposed from the first version, > dated April 5. > > Differences I see are: > * source:UNICEF,2012 is tagged per object. Wold be really interesting to > have such a tag as a minimum of metadata, but I know that, IMHO > unfortunately, the trend is to put a source tag to the changeset (good > idea, but of course only if everything in the changeset comes from the same > source) and remove any source tag per object (very regretful for the > metadata by object; means almost any OSM data extract another formats will > not have any source for the data) > * typo identified by edvac with _ intead of : . Super easy to change and > to correct from the data already imported. Just one question: such > correction on data already on OSM should be done with a OSM import account > or a normal one? > > 2. Education > facilities<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_UNICEF_Education> > and Water > facilities<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_UNICEF_WASH> > > The fixme for longitude,latitude was proposed from the first version, > dated April 5. > > Differences I see are: > * fields "not tagged because not relevant" have been added recently just > for info. I guess this cannot be an issue as they are not imported > * admin level 1, 2, 3 informed by UNICEF for each object were not present > in the proposition. Actually the first imports showed they are really > interesting for quality check. Is this OK to put them? What should be the > right key? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level does not > mention a tag for admin level names. > * source tag (see above for Health facilities) > > 3. Otherwise, regarding edvac_import "lacking changeset tags as described > in the consultation", after having checked his 6 changesets (see here), I > see this problem only once. What is the fix for this? Revert te changeset > and do the upload again with the changeset tags? > > Sincerely, > > Severin > > >> >> > This issue reminds me we asked the Import WG where we should publish the >> > original data so that it could be available for anyone to check during >> > the validation process, but we did not get an answer. >> >> There is not currently an Import WG. You can find a list of working groups >> at http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups > > I meant the import list. > >> >> >> > Is there an official repository? Ideally, it would be one run by the >> > OSMF, so that we are sure the original data would be always available. >> >> I don't think anyone has proposed adding hosting third-party geodata to >> what the sysadmins manage. I'd be a bit skeptical about adding that to >> their jobs, but such a discussion is wider than just this import and >> wouldn't be resolved immediately. >> > So let us start such a discussion > >
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