Hi Jubal, Microsoft, Thank you very much. I will restart baseball field import.
Jason On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Jubal Harpster <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jason, > > I mentioned this in your repo but thought I would also mention it to this > list. The Microsoft legal team reviewed this particular scenario and > determined that it is consistent with the current terms of the imagery as > it relates to contributing to OSM. You're welcome to use the Bing imagery > as an input to this process. > > Regards, > -Jubal > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jharpster > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Remillard [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 7:22 PM > To: Rory McCann <[email protected]> > Cc: Imports OpenStreetMap.org <[email protected]>; > [email protected] Openstreetmap <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Imports] [Talk-us] US Sports Fields Import > > Hello, > > Before I started this project in November I contacted the Bing licensing > group, described my intentions, and asked for a developer key. They > responded by giving me instructions on how to get a developer key. > > I imagine they don't get many requests like this and it turns out they > didn't understand what I was asking them. Today I was contacted by > Microsoft with the news that they are not sure if the upstream licenses > they have with the satellite image vendors allows them to grant OSM > permission to do this kind of project. > > The good news is that they indicated that they are going to try to grant > permission for this use case for OSM. The issue has been escalated into the > legal team at MS. > > I am sure Microsoft will communicate with us when they decide what to do, > until then we have to wait. > > Jason > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Rory McCann <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This is very interesting! And it's great to see some source code. I'd > > be tempted to try this myself on things I'm interested in. > > > > You mentioned that Microsoft has given permission for this, is that > > just for your one specific thing, or can any OSMer run this on their > area? > > Can you post the documentation with the permission? > > > > Since you're importing the resultant file into OSM, this isn't really > > relevant, but you say "The two final output files are in the public > > domain.". Surely these output files are basically derived from > > existing OSM data, and would be under the ODbL? > > > > I haven't looked at your data, or tried to run the code myself, but > > I'd like to do it sometime. > > > > Rory > > > > On 30/12/17 20:51, Jason Remillard wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have trained a neural network to find baseball, basketball, and > >> baseball fields in satellite images. It was trained using OSM and > >> bing tiles. Using the neural network I have mapped 2,800 new fields > >> in the US northeast, I would like to import the missing fields back > into OSM. > >> > >> Wiki project page : > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki > >> .openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FUS_Sports_Fields_Import_2018&data=02%7C01 > >> %7Cjubalh%40microsoft.com%7C376ab405aa48495df45708d552595531%7C72f988 > >> bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636505465998805392&sdata=Z3e%2F7 > >> g1acUuWldXlhjwvVxQu2h%2FxthzMM1OpSasPBkc%3D&reserved=0 > >> Github: > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith > >> ub.com%2Fjremillard%2Fimages-to-osm&data=02%7C01%7Cjubalh%40microsoft > >> .com%7C376ab405aa48495df45708d552595531%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd01 > >> 1db47%7C1%7C0%7C636505465998805392&sdata=%2BWtB2k7S97MZwro3Taqaw744ew > >> 31UUcQXpHqxDr4mwI%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> Details > >> > >> In November of 2017 all of the mapped baseball, basketball, and > >> tennis courts in Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, > >> and Pennsylvania were used to train a neural network. > >> > >> The import data was created by > >> > >> Running the neural network over the training Bing satellite images to > >> identify the missing sports fields from OSM. Fields found by the > >> network but not in OSM are passed to the next step. > >> > >> A visual QA script shows the newly mapped features over the Bing > >> satellite images, the user approves or rejects the edits. I rejected > >> any way that wasn't an excellent match to the satellite images. > >> > >> The final OSM files are created from the ways selected by myself in > >> the visual QA script. > >> > >> The ways are tagged with leisure=pitch, plus the sport=* tag. > >> > >> The changeset tags will be comment="Imported data, phase 1, > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki > >> .openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FUS_Sports_Fields_Import_2018&data=02%7C01 > >> %7Cjubalh%40microsoft.com%7C376ab405aa48495df45708d552595531%7C72f988 > >> bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636505465998805392&sdata=Z3e%2F7 > >> g1acUuWldXlhjwvVxQu2h%2FxthzMM1OpSasPBkc%3D&reserved=0", and > >> source="Bing", import=yes > >> > >> The jremillard-import account will be used to upload the 2 osm files. > >> The OSM files are already split to be under the 10,000 item limit on > >> a changeset. They will be uploaded with josm. > >> > >> Prior to starting the project I emailed Microsoft bing licensing > >> group describing the project and received approval to use the Bing > >> satellite images for this purpose. Also, the QA script qualifies as a > >> visual editor in the existing OSM Bing license. The two final output > >> files are in the public domain. > >> > >> Post Import Cleanup - Some imported ways may overlap with existing > >> OSM data. Specifically, any sport fields added since November, sports > >> fields that are tagged incorrectly, and sport fields that is a > >> relation might overlap with the uploaded data. After the files are > >> uploaded, all of the ways, and relations with the sport= tag will be > >> checked for overlaps and manually fixed. 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