Hi Andrea,
> Hi Giorgio, > I fixed some more spelling errors and other mistakes on the wiki page. > Please review them. Many thanks Summarizing, OSM is authorized to derive works from the "Carta Tecnica > Comunale" and to distribute them under the ODbL but you can't distribute > the source data. If there's an argument against this, I believe it will be > written in this ML. yes... Anyway the lack of the source data makes it impossible to verify the > correct tagging. We have to trust your derived OSM file. .... The OSM file has a source tag on each feature - please remove them. You'll > tag the changeset with the source tag, not individual features. Ok, done You wrongly tagged history=memorial features as historic=monument. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmonument > Please look at this recent thread on the talk-it ML about correctly > tagging an "oratorio" (e.g. the youth centre, not the church): > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2018-February/062020.html > OK but I don't think bell towers are places of worship. Other opinions are > welcome. Done thanks What is missing in your proposal is a good tagging plan (i.e. what tags > will be places on different features). Right now I have to look for > features and see if they are tagged correctly. > An (old) example is the following: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sardegna/Import/Edificato#Tagging Yes my tagging plan it's very simple because the import information are poor. But I will improve the information after the import with a "classic" mapping approach ;) About 3D buildings > There should be only one building tag on the outline. But you have two > building=* and there isn't one on the building outline. > Tags relevant for the complete building should be only on the building > outline (e.g. amenity=place_of_worship + religion=* + denomination=* + > name=*). > If you want to specify different height and roof on the various parts, you > must place a building:part tag on each of them. > Thus 2D renderers will ignore building:part tags but they will show the > overall building. You right, I (think) understand that and I fixed the "not residential" buildings BTW, no church has got a name tag. Will you add them? When? After the import, when I will start to search more information with some surveys (the import it's just the first step of our work) It is wrong to have two POI's - one as a building and one as a node. > Anyway, I haven't understood how and when you will handle these duplicate > features. > BTW, what is wrong with the name "Teatro Olimpico"? You could tag the > feature with name="Teatro all'Antica" ("all'Antica" and not "All'Antica") > and alt_name=""Teatro Olimpico" ( > https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teatro_all'Antica). Yes, done. Thanks again Andrea for your support. Giorgio 2018-02-11 20:34 GMT+01:00 Andrea Musuruane <musur...@gmail.com>: > Hi Giorgio, > I fixed some more spelling errors and other mistakes on the wiki page. > Please review them. > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 11:04 PM, Giorgio Limonta < > giorgio.limont...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I am waiting clarification but I belive this doesn't stop the import (I >> hope) >> > > Summarizing, OSM is authorized to derive works from the "Carta Tecnica > Comunale" and to distribute them under the ODbL but you can't distribute > the source data. If there's an argument against this, I believe it will be > written in this ML. > > Anyway the lack of the source data makes it impossible to verify the > correct tagging. We have to trust your derived OSM file. > > >> > The data still have some issue: >>> >> - adjacent buildings that are not connected >>> >> - a building has self-intersecting way >>> >> >> > The OSM file has a source tag on each feature - please remove them. You'll > tag the changeset with the source tag, not individual features. > > You wrongly tagged history=memorial features as historic=monument. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmonument > > Please look at this recent thread on the talk-it ML about correctly > tagging an "oratorio" (e.g. the youth centre, not the church): > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2018- > February/062020.html > > >> This has been discussed in the past in the talk-it ML. >>> The tag man_made=campanile is documented in the wiki but is used only 791 >>> times. Moreover the picture refers to the Swedish Klockstapel which is >>> completely different from a "campanile". The normal tagging for a >>> campanile >>> is man_made=tower + tower:type= bell_tower (used 10595 times). Even the >>> man_made=campanile wiki page suggest to use this tagging. >> >> >> Ok, at the beginning when I found "Campanile" I said "this is >> perfect!!" and I haven't search further... >> > > OK but I don't think bell towers are places of worship. Other opinions are > welcome. > > What is missing in your proposal is a good tagging plan (i.e. what tags > will be places on different features). Right now I have to look for > features and see if they are tagged correctly. > > An (old) example is the following: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sardegna/Import/Edificato#Tagging > > [About 3D buildings] > >> Your tagging is wrong. Look at the following example. >>> [image: Inline image 1] >>> This is a house. It is a single building. This also means you should have >>> only one building tag on the building outline. >>> But you made two buildings (i.e. with two building tags): one for the >>> lower >>> part (a multi polygon) and one for the higher part (a closed way). But >>> different parts must be tagged with building:part as explained on >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_buildings >> >> >> Yes now I have understud and you are absolutely right, I fixed that and >> the other similar cases (almost all the multipolygon). >> >> > It seems you didn't understand it completely. > > For example, look at the following building (a church): > https://postimg.org/image/ukj6d5j45/ > > There should be only one building tag on the outline. But you have two > building=* and there isn't one on the building outline. > > Tags relevant for the complete building should be only on the building > outline (e.g. amenity=place_of_worship + religion=* + denomination=* + > name=*). > > If you want to specify different height and roof on the various parts, you > must place a building:part tag on each of them. > > Thus 2D renderers will ignore building:part tags but they will show the > overall building. > > BTW, no church has got a name tag. Will you add them? When? > > > Right now the plan is "The Topology Checker QGIS Plugin and the Josm >> >> validator to prevent most problems before uploading the data." >> >> Please add something about what you will do *after* the import. For >> >> example, you can use again the JOSM validator (on the whole OSM data and >> >> not only on the buildings) and/or use Osmose. >> >> >> Ok >> > > You still have to update the wiki page about this. > > >> BTW, how will you merge POI on nodes and POI on buildings? For example the >> >> Teatro Olimpico and the townhall? >> >> >> "Teatro Olimpico" is wrong both in the denomination and in the >> localization. In order to not delete them I could keep both , but it could >> be redundant . >> > > It is wrong to have two POI's - one as a building and one as a node. > > Anyway, I haven't understood how and when you will handle these duplicate > features. > > BTW, what is wrong with the name "Teatro Olimpico"? You could tag the > feature with name="Teatro all'Antica" ("all'Antica" and not "All'Antica") > and alt_name=""Teatro Olimpico" (https://it.wikipedia.org/ > wiki/Teatro_all'Antica). > > Bye, > > Andrea > >
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