On 08/03/2018 17:31, Clifford Snow wrote:
Andy,
Ilya did provide a geojson [1] of the entire proposed import. If you
look back in the thread, IIya replied to my request. While large, it
opens in QGIS nicely.
[1] https://transfer.sh/12oTYj/fuel.json
Indeed, but that's not really very helpful to the casual reviewer - we
can't seriously be expecting every local mapper to install a copy of
QGIS just to check a proposed import can we? That's very much in "in the
bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a
sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'" territory*. Also just
looking at the data like that means there's no way to verify that a
particular point looks OK or has problems.
Actually, when the data does eventually load*** it's clear that there
are some serious problems with it. To take a local example previously
mentioned when the Shell import was discussed
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/298006841 - there appears to be a
proposal to change the opening hours there from the "Shell" values to
Navads' "24/7". It might have changed of course, but if so it's within
the last month or so. Another example is
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/280943195 - the brand in OSM is
correct, the proposed brand is wrong, as is the proposed website.
Perhaps like the initial attempt with the Shell data Zverik needs to go
away and then come back once it has been corrected at source? That's
essentially what happened with the previous Shell UK import** - at the
second attempt a significant number of obvious errors (discussed on this
list) had been corrected. In addition I'd suggest that this import
should not automatically overwrite data that has an object source or a
changeset source of something containing "survey", local_knowledge" or
similar.
It also does not make sense to suggest that an "advertising" company
update objects in OSM on their whim in the future, especially given the
poor quality of the data they're trying to import now. It's not just
the UK either - their have been quite a few "Zverik, this one looks
wrong" comments on IRC from other countries too.
Best Regards,
Andy
* 40 years to the day since first broadcast, incidentally:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_Primary_and_Secondary_Phases#Fit_the_First
** See
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2017-May/thread.html#4956
and
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-May/thread.html#20205
et al.
*** The website's still broken - I still can't mark data as "valid" or
"invalid" even when logged in.
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