Sorry, meant to post to imports, not talk-us.
Stevea

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: OSM Volunteer stevea <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] North Central Texas Microsoft Building Import
> Date: October 28, 2018 at 2:41:14 PM PDT
> To: Andrew <[email protected]>, talk-us <[email protected]>
> 
> Hi Andrew:
> 
> Your wiki for the import is quite sparse, to the point of being so incomplete 
> it isn't even "skeletal."  If that is your "Import Plan," I don't believe it 
> meets OSM's Import Guidelines (https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines ). 
>  You might have completed Step 1 (Prerequisites), though I don't know that, 
> you might be attempting to get Step 2 (Community Buy-in) by posting here, and 
> while you seem to have at least some local buy-in (besides yourself?), as 
> your Google Sheet has some mildly populated cells in the table (but only with 
> your name), simply posting on talk-us "we're doing an import" isn't really 
> considered "enough" in this regard.  You're OK with Step 3 (License) as the 
> data are ODbL-compatible.  Step 4 (Documentation) is sorely lacking, as I see 
> no "North Central Texas Microsoft Building" entry in our 
> /wiki/Import/Catalogue, and as I say, your wiki is so sparse as to be a mere 
> whisper.  Step 5 (Import Review) is non-existent, except for this single post 
> with a link to a sparse wiki.  Yet, you seem to have begun Step 6 
> (Uploading), without following our Guidelines.
> 
> Also, I would discourage you from using Google Sheets:  the sheet linked from 
> the Tracking Sheet column that simply gives instructions beginning with 
> "Welcome to the North Central Texas Microsoft Building Import Tracker!" 
> doesn't need to be a "sheet," it could (should, in fact) become part of your 
> Import wiki.  And while the 969-row "actual" sheet that tracks progress does 
> benefit from the tabular nature of a "sheet," there are oddities about it:  
> columns M and N rather uselessly list loopback addresses (127.0.0.1).  
> Couldn't this be better done using our already-built-in 
> https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager ?  As "Open" is our first name, 
> we should strive to avoid proprietary and licensed tools like Google Sheet 
> (or Google anything) in our endeavors to map or track Import projects.  For 
> such a wide area Import, Tasking_Manager is much better suited, as it gives 
> geographic-flavored visually-impactful status, rather than the need to scroll 
> through (or sort) the droll rows of a nearly-thousand record spreadsheet.
> 
> May I ask you to please "go back to the beginning and follow our process?"  
> It doesn't seem like I'm asking you to "re-invent the wheel" or "throw away 
> work" as you haven't followed our Import Guidelines and there are only 4 (out 
> of 969) rows in the Sheet that appear completed, and even half of those say 
> "Need TIGER fix-up" and/or need "alignment of major rds."  (And again, they 
> all have your account name on them, which does have an "import" suffixed to 
> the end of it, so thank you for completing that step correctly).
> 
> Let's strive to do Imports well by following our Import Guidelines.  They 
> exist for many good reasons.
> 
> SteveA
> California

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