On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:14:11 -0500, Troy Rollins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> This is functionally possible by importing Flash as QuickTime media. It
> limits you to QT4 level interactivity, but if you are looking for
> animation and vector graphics rendering - it can be done right now.

Yep, you are right Troy, however the version of Flash embedded in QT4 is 
Flash 4 and suffers from a massive lack of programming control and other 
issues related to being a 'layer' inside QTime (and apparently a nasty 
memory leak, although I haven't experienced it yet).  It is quite 
frustrating to try and get any sort of functionality out it, other than 
a few moving graphics.  Also we are looking to 'ship with a skip' with a 
skip QTime install for Windows boxes; Windows users shouldn't have to do 
a massive QT install just to run my little app, but that's another 
matter...

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:22:21 +0000, Ben Rubinstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> The plug-in API is published, so it is certainly possible to do - would 
> be
> much better done within the engine though.

Hey Ben, not sure what you mean here, do you mean somehow play Flash 
directly, without using the plug-in?  I guess QTime is played from 
within Rev directly, so are you suggesting a Flash QTime-like addition 
to the palette, simply drag and drop a Flash player object?  That to me 
sounds like a great idea, as I'm sure there are overhead and 
compatibility issues with the plug-in path.  Would that mean licensing 
issues?  Not sure, however since Macromedia is truly trying to make 
Flash all pervasive -- I now have Flash installed on my vacuum cleaner's 
display controlled by my LG air conditioner )-@ -- I'm sure licensing is 
probably less of an issue, although I truly don't know.

> The result was great - much more functionality than we
> could have achieved by doing it ourselves - and the time we'd spent was
> instead generally useful.

Sounds like it was well worth it, and possibly fun too.  Out of 
interest, how long did the play-plug-in it take from start to finish?

> And yes, the Flash plug-in would be an excellent initial test case to 
> work
> with, since (a) it would be very useful and (b) because of the 
> capability to
> pass data back and forth, it would exercise a lot of the issues.

Agree!  Hopefully we would see the major plug-ins work as if they were 
playing from within IE, but I could see a case for a native Flash-only 
solution too, thinking back to the Netscape/Explorer plug-in issues of 
past.  'Well, it kinda works in IE, but best in Netscape.' or 'Best 
played in IE, you risk isolation in Netscape'.

Flash with Rev would be a formidable combination, particularly with some 
communication between them!  So one tiny problem... who can we convince 
at Rev/MC to put this <high> on the wish list?  Anyone else care to 
comment?  (We are on the less-traffic area of Rev list).

Cheers

M@

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