Eric & Theo and list members, Thank you for your input, I didn't realize that a bounce had to occur while receiving ! And the last thing I want to do is bother someone else (unintended victim) with more junk. The server I run is a non-profit venture, so cost of a Barracuda or other spam-service becomes a personal burden. Sounds like Apple's bounce method may cause more problems than it fixes. I was looking for another more effective method for rejecting spam (besides just deleting), as my only real spam prevention is changing user names. Thanks, John Martoccio
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Zaxalon Webmaster Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: FW: Does anyone have a method to manually BOUNCE messages ? John, Thanks for the compliment but I'm afraid AVP isn't under development any more. I'd recommend a Barracuda Spam and Virus Firewall and in front of the IMS server. The Barracuda is a fantastic product for combating spam. Also, note that many spammers also use hard-bounced messages to spam by forging the reply address within the spam as the intended spamming recipient, and then intentionally bounce the spam message off of a server configured as you have described. Without SPF or Domain Keys what you are talking about doing might have the opposite of the Intended effect. Spammers more often than not forge the reply address so effective rejection really needs to take place before or during actual message delivery. Regards, n Eric From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Martoccio Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Does anyone have a method to manually BOUNCE messages ? Many spammers use an automated scripts to detect a HARD-BOUNCED message (user not found) errors, and automatically remove them from their send lists. I am looking for a routine (searched but cannot find programs written like "mail-bounce" by Gary Renshaw) that can read messages in a folder, and reply to all with a HARD BOUNCE. I use auto-pass (bplugin0) to pass messages to certain addresses regardless of senders, and have Trash-finder catch everything else in the trash folder, where I can review before relay/move-to a spam folder. I would like a program to send a hard bounce to everything in the SPAM folder. I have a friend with an Apple email client that has a BOUNCE feature, and he tells me since using it, he gets NO JUNK mail at all ! The absolutely ideal situation for me, is to have a button in AVP (my favorite email review program) that could bounce everything selected ! Thanks, John Martoccio _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Zaxalon Webmaster Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: FW: Does anyone have a method to manually BOUNCE messages ? How would this eliminate spam? It would occur to me that bouncing spam would simply create more of it, especially if the return address is forged. n Eric Helfgott From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Martoccio Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:41 AM To: 'Trash Finder List'; [email protected] Subject: Does anyone have a method to manually BOUNCE messages ? Good Morning, I am searching for a method that I could BOUNCE spam mail with "550, user not found error", in an effort to eliminate spam. This would work best for me, on the raw messages MIME, preferably able to BOUNCE all messages that are in a particular folder. Any ideas ? Still using IMS: SMTPRCV, Trashfinder, SCSMfilter, AVP... Sincerely, John Martoccio
