On 2005-11-16 Levenglick, Jeff wrote: > You scanning someone else without their permission is not network > trouble shooting.
That's a completely unfounded assertion. First of all, I don't need anyone's permission to to a scan. Period. It's a common but nonetheless wrong claim that a scan (which is merely a way to determine which services are running on a specific host) would require someone's permission. Second, you can use nmap in several ways. You may very well probe one specific service instead of running a full-scale scan. Third, finding out what causes specific (suspicious) entries in my logs qualifies very well as network troubleshooting. At least in my book. > The law is very open. Yes, there is nothing on nmap, There's not only nothing on nmap, but nothing on port-scanners or port- scanning in general. > but isp's have usage statements that target server and hacking tools. > (Ie: a home user is not supposed to use their line for a server.... > ect) Not every ISP has theses statements, and anyone who agrees to conditions like that deserves what they get. Besides, the terms of an ISP contract hardly qualify as "legal trouble". > You can pretty much call any isp and complain about a scan and have them > warn or suspend an account. Granted, it needs to be a valid scan, not a > quick few second random scan. If my ISP would suspend my account because of someone complaining about a portscan, they'd find themselves in court faster than they can spell "lawsuit". Regards Ansgar Wiechers P.S.: Please don't CC me, I do read this list. -- "Another option [for defragmentation] is to back up your important files, erase the hard disk, then reinstall Mac OS X and your backed up files." --http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25668
