Dave Miner wrote:
> Brian Nitz wrote:
>> Dave Miner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great, I didn't know about that limitation with the Belinix boot
>>>> loader. And I'd choose maintainable too. How would I get involved
>>>> with the supportability design of Indiana? I'd like to help avoid
>>>> some mistakes made with other linux distributions including those
>>>> Sun was involved with at one time.
>>>
>>> Since the principal differences between Indiana and Solaris Express
>>> ar in the packaging and installation technology, the best way would
>>> be to participate more in the Caiman and Image Packaging projects;
>>> designs and code for various pieces are being published right
>>> along. To me that's the level at which supportability and other
>>> issues are better addressed.
>>>
>>> Dave
>> I certainly intend to continue participating in installation and
>> packaging discussions, but I don't think this sufficiently covers the
>> topic of supportability. Ubuntu, Red Hat and SuSE all had decent
>> package/patch management system but each of these presents
>> unnecessary support challenges which we can overcome if we learn from
>> earlier mistakes. For example:
>>
>
> [ examples ellided ]
>
>> Maybe Indiana isn't the right place to bring this up, but I
>> don't see a supportability project or discussion group. Should I
>> create one?
>
> In most of your example cases, these appear to me to be questions to
> ask of various project teams, because they are directly governed by
> design decisions those projects might make. "What hardware is
> supported" is one that's a distro-level question, I suppose, but I
> doubt you've proposed a meaningful choice given the previously
> announced goals of this distro.
>
> Dave
I'm only trying to repeat mistakes made by other Linux distributions
including the SuSE based distribution we worked where supportability was
an afterthought. I understand that Ian intends to avoid some of these
mistakes but I don't think we can avoid them without an open discussion
on supportability as an overall design goal. As you know, this requires
coordination across several projects and with the current opensolaris
hierarchy, the only place for this is a new meta-project or bring up the
discussion within the distro's discussion group. This is why I bring it
up here.
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