On 15-Jan-08, at 6:30 AM, Bryan Boone wrote:

> ...But if Indiana wants to lure Linux folks to Solaris, it needs to
> offer tools that are familiar.  I cut my teeth as a Windows 3.0
> developer, but I came to Linux via Mac OS X.  What was true in OS X
> (BSD) was true, for the most part, in Linux.  Migration was easy and  
> it
> was a win-win for me.
> I keep coming back to Solaris (Indiana, SolarisExpress, Belenix,
> Nexenta) because of stability (tho I have no problem with the Linux
> kernel), performance, etc... But what continues to baffle me (a mere
> mortal) is the administration of it. (and general tools).  From my
> perspective, gnu tools (by default) are a big plus, with the promise  
> of
> learning Solaris tools as I become a super user.
>
> -Bryan

And if we want to lure windows users, it doesn't make a lick of  
difference. And if we want to retain solaris users, the solaris  
userland ought to be default ( rather than a potential, not a  
guarantee, that linux users will come ), and you're foolish to believe  
that it's better to lose all our current users in favour of the slight  
possibility that lack of an installer option will lure more users.

99% of the time what people want isn't GNU tools per se, they want a  
specific piece of functionality ( tar -z/-j, tab-completion, etc ),  
but some influential members of the community have decided that rather  
than improving the solaris userland to make it more accessible, the  
proverbial baby ought to be tossed out with the bathwater & we ought  
to be doing a full migration to GNU.

Some of us think that this is a terrible idea, and a sad state of  
affairs for an operating system that used to pride itself on  
compatibility and succeeded in the marketplace because of that.

This is why I think that if the indiana team is unwilling to add a  
simple radio button ( even if the default option is set to 'GNU'...  
i'm fine with that ), then a new, competing distribution based on  
standards compliance and compatibility ought to be formed.

cheers :)
-John
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