On Jan 20, 2008 10:32 PM, Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shawn Walker wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008 4:53 PM, Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Shawn Walker wrote: > >> > >>> On Jan 20, 2008 10:06 AM, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Jan 20, 2008 3:46 PM, John Sonnenschein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> There is nothing that an updated indiana can do with respect to the > >>>>> problem of building ON. > >>>>> > >>>>> The first most visible problem is in the Sun Studio tools, > >>>>> specifically the package SUNWsprot which contains as(1). gas doesn't > >>>>> work to build ON, and SUNWsprot's copy of as(1) is non-redistrib. and > >>>>> therefore not in indiana > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> That's really bad. > >>>> Will this feature be supported in the coming March release? > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I doubt it. Despite Jonathan Schwartz's promises over two years ago > >>> now that "everything Sun does will be open source" -- unknown reasons > >>> prevent the release of Sun Studio, even with the most basic > >>> redistribution rights that we already have for other OpenSolaris > >>> binary components. > >>> > >>> > >> Aren't you assuming that Sun owns all of the intellectual property > >> in the compilers? There is no conspiracy. > >> > > > > I'm not assuming; hence why I said earlier: "for reasons unknown." > > > > However, since this is *Open*Solaris; I would expect a statement from > > Sun letting us know why they have yet as been unable to fulfill their > > CEO's promise. > > > > If Sun Studio was a "nice to have" component, I wouldn't care so much. > > But the reality is that Sun Studio and OpenSolaris are "joined at the > > hip." > > > > As such, it is reasonable to expect Sun to at the very least state why > > it hasn't happened yet, what their plan is for it, or when it will > > happen. > > > > Quite frankly, I'm not all that bothered so much by it not being open > > source yet, as I have previously concluded that it must be for some > > legal reasons. > > > > However, the fact remains that years after this project has launched, > > we still don't have proper redistribution rights at the very least > > that would allow OpenSolaris-based distributions to be self-hosting. > > > > > > You've never dealt with lawyers before? ...be patient, lawyers don't work > in internet time :-(
No, I have. But I'm mystified as to why some statements can't be made, such as "we currently don't have the rights to release this." That would far more than we've been given at the moment. ...a couple of years hardly seems like internet time :) Cheers, -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
