Shawn Walker wrote, On 21/06/07 02:31:
> On 20/06/07, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Eric Boutilier wrote:
>> > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, John Sonnenschein wrote:
>> >> On 6/20/07, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> d Debian?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for making my point for me. Do we really want
>> OpenSolaris to
>> >>> have the same problems? That's the path we're currently on.. -ian
>> >>
>> >> Sorry if I don't see it as a problem per se.
>> >
>> > I agree.
>> >
>> > Ian: In this regard, Linux and Solaris/OpenSolaris evolved in very
>> > different ways. In OpenSolaris land, there already exists the optimal
>> > touchstone: the Nevada core (and no less important, the environment and
>> > processes from which it generates). In Linux land the common
>> touchstone is
>> > just the kernel. Pardon while I wax poetic, but that is no less than a
>> > _profoundly critical_ difference between Linux and OpenSolaris.
>>
>> You don't get it.
>>
>> It doesn't matter if the common touchstone is just a kernel
>> or the kernel and the entire userspace. The source
>> code doesn't make a platform. The binaries make a platform.
>>
>> That's why we need OpenSolaris to be a binary distribution.
>>
>> Trust me. I've lived this mess for the last 10 years, and
>> it's been my job for the past 2 to try to clean it up,
>> which turns out to be very difficult to do after the fact..
>
> "Trust me" is not very convincing. A more reasoned response would be
> appreciated.
>
> So far, you haven't convinced me. Linux has been a source base for
> years and has experienced no ill effect in popularity (though it has
> in engineering arguably) from not having once place where you
> "download Linux (an OS)".
Would something like this help to convince you?
http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Application_Compatibility
The "Linux" community has accomplished lot of interesting stuff, but
it has also made many silly mistakes; of course, we should be wise
enough for not repeating those mistakes.
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Greetings, alo.
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