Giacomo Tufano wrote: > Il giorno 16/ott/08, alle ore 04:34, W. Wayne Liauh ha scritto: > > >>> James Cornell wrote: >>> >>>> Only hardcore engineers are using Solaris, all of >>>> >>> the front-ends use >>> >>>> Windows and all of the hr and pr people use Mac >>>> >>> laptops. Part of the >>> >>> Sorry, but that also isn't true. There are many >>> non-engineering folks >>> that are running Solaris or using SunRays too. >>> >>> >> James has a good point. Yes, I am sure there are non-engineering >> folks who are running Solaris, but I bet'ya you can probably count >> the number of them with one hand. >> > > You will lose the bet. I personally know not less than 30 people (in > Sun) that use (not only for presos) Solaris on their notebooks > (installed bare metal)... and I can assure you that many more use > Solaris on desktop. And the nearest engineering group is some thousand > km away from here... Only a few of them use ONLY Solaris, that's > true... I can bet that the same holds true for the people reading this > list, too... > > gt > > > _______________________________________________ > indiana-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss > I basically agree, but the truth is, Sun creates a lot of its "killer" apps in-house for Solaris, but small companies and mid-size who buy off the shelf due to initial costs cannot accept this as an option. I'd suspect more people at Sun use Solaris more than if you were to go to any other company, just as the saying goes in Redmond, "We eat our own dogfood"; problem being this is only a viable solution to Sun itself, who owns the keys and contacts to what's needed to make it a reality to itself. Again, this is not an option to people you're trying to buy-in to Solaris, since they are used to massive ISV support and off the shelf components. It's better now than it would had been 10 years ago, so I don't blame Sun for many of its hiccupts, but these people you're citing as heavy Solaris users are very technical, and again I go back to the actual intention of Solaris Next/11/OpenSolaris/Indiana because if it doesn't meet investor and OEM requirements in usability, accessibility, and abundant SDKs for their staff, the light of day will never reach Sun for those common joe programmer apps such as VMware or Adobe Reader which are still much better than their open-source counterparts and replacements. It's more than a matter of choice, it's a matter of business here, if you can't keep up with the demands, get steamrolled and be forgotten.
On better news, Indiana B99 went flawless on my Ultra 20 M2; every single major application and panel/widget that I tested worked without a hitch, minus ips frontend taking ages to resolve dependencies on OpenOffice.org of course. I'm not going to act blind and say I'd replace everything with OpenSolaris, but I'm quite happy with the basically 2008.11 spin from genunix.org compared to the nightmare trail starting with B66 of SXCE 2 years+ back. Though they really need to cut out Thunderbird since they're only 15mb short of making the normal CD ISO actually fit on a CD and not a DVD, ~734MB is quite annoying and wasteful. James _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
