Assalamu Alaikum, Dear Brothers, Assalamu Alaikum....,
Please don't deviate from the topic. How can one compare Shaykh Albani's(rahimahullah) prohibition of gold for women with that of Sayyid Qutb's ignorance of the Qur'an. You know why? B'cos when you ask Shaykh Albani(rahimahullah) regarding the prohibition of gold for women, he would show you Bint Hubairah's Hadeeth. Of course, you may try to convince him that he is wrong by providing the sayings of the Scholars, who graded that hadeeth as weak. But, yet, he may give his own proof for his stance...and the discussion goes forward. In short, even if we consider that Shaykh Albani(rahimahullah) is wrong in that particular issue, it's only a matter of Ijtihad. And as you know, a Scholar is rewarded twice if his ijtihad is correct and is REWARDED ONCE if his ijtihad is wrong. That means, Shaykh Albani(rahimahullah) doesn't deviate from the straight path. Now, let's come to Sayyid Qutb. If someone asks for the proof for something he wrote, will he be able to produce one. No! Why? B'cos, you yourself admitted it in your statement..."fi dhilali quran was written when he had no referance books except a copy of quran itself". Can one interpret Qur'an according to one's personal views, without any references from the Prophet(sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) or the Sahabah(radhiyallahu anhum)? Let's see what the Prophet(sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) says in this regard... The Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) said: *One who interprets the Quran according to personal opinion **he makes his place in fire (Hell).* and *One who interprets the Quran according to his view,even though it may be right, yet he has committed a sin.* So, he did a grave mistake by interpreting the Qur'an according to his personal views. This is a fundamental knowledge one should have in mind. Even a layman can't do this, then how come a person, who is considered a scholar and a revivalist by some people, do this? OK! You may argue that he'll be excused due to his ignorance on this matter. Agreed! Then why you people are still promoting an ignorant and his Tafseer (sorry! a Shadow!!), when there are many other authentic tafseers readily available in the market? So, my dear brother, I sincerely advice you to learn the Qur'an and it's Tafseer from authentic sources. As you are well aware of, the life is short-so don't waste it by spending the time on people's opinions. People may have many opinions according to the circumstances in which they live (it's clear from your words that Qutb was influenced by the then President's speech). It's better not to read them under the shadow of the Qur'an. We can read it under the shadow of something else. Because, it's the words of the creator and it's interpretation can be known only thru Wahy'. The Prophet(sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) got the interpretation thru wahy'. That, he taught to his Sahabah(radhiyallahu anhum). From them, it was spread as such and is recorded in the tafseers of those who follow this path. So, the understanding of the early generations (to be specific, the first three generations) is important in this matter, because the Prophet(sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) had praised the first three generations thru his words: "The best of the generations is my generation, then the next, then the next." These three generations are called the Salaf. This methodology is called Manhajussalaf. The people who follow that noble path are called Salafis. Just mocking this methodology, like saying "bcoz he doesnt follow ur manhaj", is easy and it's hukm is left the Hakim, Allah. But that's what our beloved Prophet(sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) taught us. If you adhere to that path, then there will be no confusion. You will no more need any tafseers influenced by President's speech. No doubt that writing from memory is a great thing. But that is not a criteria for the authenticity of what he writes. So, once again I invite you to follow this straight path of the Salaf and to keep away from the deviated ones. On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Abdulrehman Mohammed <[email protected]>wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Shabbeer Ali <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: Another Reply about Sayyid Kuthb: Shiyakkalum Muslingalum.... > To: Abdulrehman Mohammed <[email protected]> > > > albani do not know the fundementals of islam coz according to him gold is > prohibited even for women....if i argue this way wud u agree......sayyid > kutub.....u shud read his books.....not just say somebody doesnt knw > anything abt something just bcoz he doesnt follow ur manhaj......sayyed > kutub wrote fi dhilalil quran in the jail whn the speach of the then > president was played continously for fourteen hours....its is his musings on > the quran..thts y it is called in the shadow of quran....dont u get the idea > from the heading itself..not a tafseer as a standard...fi dhilali quran was > written whn he had no referance books except a copy of quran itself....not > saying these things is total imjustice to a person....if a person cud write > that much from memory ab the quran without reading anything atleast u shud > give him some credit for tht.....this article is so absurd tht i dont knw > how cud somebody can write something like this...mashaallah..... > > > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Abdulrehman Mohammed > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: salim <[email protected]> >> Date: Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM >> Subject: Fwd: Reply for: Shiyakkalum Muslingalum: Chila Vyathiyanangal >> To: Abdulrehman Mohammed [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> See below. On the top is the words of Shaykh Nasiruddeen Albani. (He is >> not a KNM member!!!!) >> >> Source: http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/qutb.htm >> >> *Who was Sayyid Qutb?* >> >> *"Sayyid Qutb had no knowledge of the fundamental or subsidiary matters >> of Islam."* >> >> - Shaykh Muhammad Naasir ad-Deen al-Albaanee >> >> Sayyid Qutb (1906-66) was born in a small town in Upper Egypt and moved to >> Cairo as an adolescent in order to further his education. >> >> Qutb began to write in the late 1920s as a poet and literary critic, >> writing about social and political matters from a secular standpoint. By >> 1948, Qutb changed his mode of writing, and began to write from a more >> Islamic perspective, according to the limited knowledge of Islam that he >> had. *Social Justice*, his first Islamic book, was published in 1949. >> >> After his return from a two-year study tour in the United States that >> ended in 1950, Qutb joined al-Ikhwan >> al-Muslimun<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/ikhwan.htm> >> * *(the Muslim Brotherhood), becoming one of their leading spokesmen. >> After the movement openly opposed the government of Jamal Abdul Nasser, Qutb >> essentially spent the rest of his life in prison after 1954, except for a >> brief period in 1964-65. After being temporarily released, Qutb was >> re-apprehended, tried and executed for treason in 1966. >> >> Qutb's lack of knowledge in Islam coupled by his jailing led him to change >> his understanding of Islam according to the circumstances he was faced with. >> Consequently, his writings became more and more radical as time went by. >> Eventually, his revolutionary ideology of *takfir* (excommunication) and >> setting out against the authorities became ingrained in the minds and hearts >> of a new generation of youth who were looking for something greater than the >> failed way of al-Ikhwan >> al-Muslimun<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/ikhwan.htm>. >> To this day, Qutb is considered to be the head of this ideology for all >> insurrectionary groups. >> >> His new-fangled way of understanding Islam is evident in his attempt to >> write a *tafsir* (explanation) of the Quran called *Fi Thilalil-Quran*(In >> the Shade of the Quran). Qutb was not interested in following the >> traditional approach of explaining the Quran, which is to firstly refer to >> the Quran itself for other verses which clarify the meaning, then the >> Haadeeths of the Prophet (may >> Allah<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm>raise his rank and grant him >> peace) which deal with the meanings of specific >> verses, or if this does not exist, to refer to the explanations of his >> companions. Hence, it cannot be referred to as a tafsir in the conventional >> sense. >> >> Referring to the explanations of the companions is a legislated matter in >> Islam, because they witnessed the revelation of the Quran and were taught >> its understanding and application by the one to whom it was revealed. >> Consequently, they were commissioned to transmit the texts of the Quran and >> Haadeeths that we read today and were also charged with the responsibility >> of retaining the explanations of the texts as well as their causes and >> occasions of revelation. Instead of referring to these important sources, >> Qutb used his own opinions to explain the Quran - over and above these >> sources. Consequently, this tafsir contains numerous errors which the >> Salafi <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/salafism.htm> scholars have already >> clarified for the people. >> >> Because of his ignorance of the orthodox system of Islamic belief, Qutb >> came up with a hodgepodge of statements collected from all of the various >> Islamic sects which have sprung up since the earliest years of Islamic >> civilization. Far from being upon the creed of the >> "Wahhabis"<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/salafism.htm>, >> Qutb was influenced by the >> *Mu'tazili/*Sufi<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/sufism.htm>philosophical >> school of thought which prevails in that area of the Middle >> East. This system of belief runs completely contrary to the so-called >> "Wahhabi" <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/salafism.htm> creed. >> >> Since he abandoned the methodology of returning to the understanding of >> the Prophet (may Allah <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm> raise >> his rank and grant him peace) and his companions when approaching the texts >> of the Quran and Sunnah, Qutb became engrossed in the faults and sins of >> those around him, particularly those of the rulers. >> >> As the Islamic groups such as al-Ikhwan >> al-Muslimun<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/ikhwan.htm>sought to usurp the >> authority of the Egyptian rulers, the government >> responded by clamping down on them, sometimes in brutal ways. This >> environment caused Qutb to form a particular outlook of the world, and his >> absence of proper grounding in the methodology of the early rightly-guided >> Muslims caused him to fall into the dangerous orientation of expelling >> people from the fold of Islam due to their sins... >> *Who was Sayyid Qutb? (part 2)* >> >> Sayyid Qutb's ignorance of the fundamentals of Islam led him to utter the >> following statements of perilous excess, "Today, we are in *jahiliyah*(the >> days of ignorance), >> * like that which was prevalent at the dawn of Islam, in fact more >> severe. Everything around us is jahiliyah*…" >> >> Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, one of the great scholars of this time, was >> asked whether it is permissible to use the term *jahiliyah* in an >> unrestricted manner upon the present-day Islamic societies, to which he >> answered: >> >> The general *jahiliyah* went away when the Messenger of >> Allah<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm>(may >> Allah <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm> raise his rank and grant >> him peace) was sent. So it is not permissible to employ it upon the Islamic >> societies in a general sense. As for applying something from its affairs >> upon individuals or upon some groups and societies, then this is permissible >> and allowed. Indeed, the Prophet (may >> Allah<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm>raise his rank and grant him >> peace) said to one of his companions, >> *"Verily you are a man who has jahiliyah in him."* >> >> And he (may Allah <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm> raise his >> rank and grant him peace) said, *"My nation will not leave off four >> affairs of jahiliyah: Pride in noble descent, cursing the lineage, >> seeking rain through the stars, and wailing over the dead."* >> >> Elsewhere, Qutb said, "The time has reverted back to its original form on >> the very day this religion came to mankind with the phrase 'There is no >> deity worthy of worship other than >> Allah<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm>.' >> *For mankind has apostatized* and gone to the worship of the servants..." >> >> >> This extreme belief led Qutb to conclude that "*the (Islamic) Nation has >> ceased to be in existence and has not been perceivable for a very long time >> *." >> >> In fact, Qutb went to such lengths of extremism that he refused to pray >> the obligatory Friday congregational prayer, believing that its obligation >> was no longer binding due to the fact that there was no Caliph ruling over >> the Muslim lands. In his book "The Secret History of al-Ikhwan >> al-Muslimun <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/ikhwan.htm>, Ali Ashmawi said, >> * *"And the time for the obligatory Friday congregational prayer arrived >> so I said to him (Qutb), 'Let us leave and pray,' and it was a surprise that >> I came to know - and for the first time - that he did not use to pray the >> Friday prayer." >> >> Even the heads of al-Ikhwan >> al-Muslimun<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/ikhwan.htm>, >> such as Dr. Yusuf al-Qaradawi, bear witness to the menace of Qutb and his >> followers: >> >> "And it was in this period that the books of the martyr, Sayyid Qutb >> appeared, the books that represented his final thoughts (in ideology, before >> his death). Those which justified the *takfir* (excommunication) of >> (whole) societies… the breaking of all sentimental attachments to society, >> breaking off ties with others, and the announcement of a destructive * >> jihad* against the whole of mankind. And showing contempt against the >> inviters who call for lenience and softness, accusing them of idiocy, and >> being defeatist… He made this manifest, in the most clear manner in the >> tafsir (explanation of the Quran), *Fi Thilalil-Quran,* in the 2nd >> edition and in *Ma'alim fit-Tariq *(Milestones), and the bulk of it is >> taken from* Thilal* and *Al-Islam wa Mushkilatil-Hadharah *and others." >> >> The senior Salafi <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/salafism.htm> scholars >> have clearly alerted the Muslims to these mistakes, which are far from >> limited to issues of *takfir* (excommunication). When asked for his >> opinion about whether or not it was correct for people to keep a copy of >> Qutb's commentary of the Quran in their houses, Shaykh Muqbil Ibn Haadee >> al-Waadi'ee, the great Yemeni scholar replied: >> >> "As for the book *ath-Thilal* and the writings of Sayyid Qutb - may >> Allah<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm>have mercy upon him - then we >> advise that they not be read at all, because >> some people from *Jamaa'atut-Takfir* and some of the youth who were >> conceived by *Jamaa'atut-Takfir* were a direct product of the writings of >> Sayyid Qutb, may Allah have mercy upon him. And Sayyid Qutb was merely >> considered a writer, he was not considered a *mufassir* (explainer of the >> Quran)." >> >> The late Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymin, one of the leading >> scholars of this century, was asked about the books of Sayyid Qutb, >> particularly *Fi Thilalil-Quran* (In the Shade of the Quran) and *Ma'alim >> fit-Tariq *(Milestones), wherein he replied: >> >> "My statement - may Allah <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm> bless >> you - is that whoever is sincere to >> Allah<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm>, >> His Messenger, and his brother Muslims, then he should encourage the people >> to read the books of those who have preceded us, from the books of * >> tafsir* (explanation of the Quran) and other than (the books of) *tafsir*. >> These books contain more blessings, are more beneficial and are much better >> than the books of the later ones. As for the *tafsir* of Sayyid Qutb - >> may Allah <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm> have mercy upon him - >> then it contains great calamities, however we hope that >> Allah<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/Allah.htm>pardons him. It contains great >> calamities…" >> >> Evidently, the senior Salafi >> <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/salafism.htm>scholars have clarified the >> overabundance of calamitous errors which are >> contained within Sayyid Qutb's books. They have spoken about the subjects >> which have been mentioned in this book, and they have spoken about other >> areas of creed which Qutb fell into error in, which have not been mentioned >> in this book. Anyone who still insists on hanging on to certain >> personalities from amongst the Islamic "thinkers" such as Sayyid Qutb, Abu >> Alaa Maududi <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/mawdudi.htm>, and Hasan >> al-Banna <http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/banna.htm>, and refuses to reject >> the deviation of the contemporary groups and movements, has removed >> themselves from the methodology of >> Salafism<http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/salafism.htm>, >> even if they attempt to ascribe themselves to it. >> >> *- abridged from the book, The 'Wahhabi' Myth* >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:10 AM, salim <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Abdulrehman Mohammed <[email protected]> >>> Date: Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM >>> Subject: Reply for: Shiyakkalum Muslingalum: Chila Vyathiyanangal >>> To: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: SELIL MOIDEEN <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:17 PM >>> Subject: FW: Shiyakkalum Muslingalum: Chila Vyathiyanangal >>> To: Abdulrehman Mohammed <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> ASSALOMOALAIKUM WARAHMATHULLAHI WABARAKATHUHU, >>> >>> JUST FORWARDING U THE REPLY I GOT AFTER FORWARDING YOUR MAIL AND THE >>> REPLY THAT I GAVE. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------- >>> >>> >>> brother selil, >>> assalamu alaikum, >>> >>> >>> first of all go and read the book "social justice in islam" >>> its available there in UK.imam sayd quthub is that famous over the world. >>> do u wanna make a great scholar kafir .just wen u see any salafi >>> scholar(other than knm) ask him abt sayd quthub >>> >>> >>> just once u check it out. >>> ------------------------------ >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Shiyakkalum Muslingalum: Chila Vyathiyanangal >>> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 23:34:13 +0530 >>> >>> Sayyid Qutb is labled as No:1 terrorist whole over the U.K. There is no >>> argument on this issue. I am talking from my experience. London East End >>> Masjid was in a big trouble coz of Sayyid Qutub's scriptures out there. >>> The biggest Masjid in Europe was supposed to be in Westham in London. It's >>> banned coz of the same Sayyid Qutb issue. It is a big issue out there in >>> U.K, Ask some in U.K or search in Google and Youtube. >>> >>> The man (Sayyid Qutb) whose ideas would shape Al Queda (1,2,3,4) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. *^ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb#cite_ref-2>** **PBS >>> program America at the >>> crossroads*<http://www.pbs.org/weta/crossroads/about/show_jihad.html> "Qutb, >>> founder [sic, he was an official but not a founder] of the Muslim >>> Brotherhood, visits America in 1948" >>> 2. *^ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb#cite_ref-3>** **The >>> Power of >>> Nightmares*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares> by >>> Adam Curtis >>> 3. *^ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb#cite_ref-4>* Robert >>> Irwin, "Is this the man who inspired Bin Laden?" *The Guardian* (November >>> 1, 2001). >>> 4. *^ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb#cite_ref-5>* Paul >>> Berman, "The Philosopher of Islamic Terror", *New York Times Magazine >>> * (March 23, 2003). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Abdulrehman Mohammed >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Barakallah feek, >>> >>> Muhammed Salim Kachery >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Abdulrehman Mohammed >> > > > > -- > Say (To mankind). 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