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From: Anand Kumar Bhatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Indiantreepix] Re: kadmab(neolamarkia cadamba)
To: "J.M. Garg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: vinod kumar gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[email protected]


The climate of Kolkata will be congenial to Kadamba. Mayada writes
that Kadamba in Vrindavan is very fragrant. so that should be Kaim.
akbhatt

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM, J.M. Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a few big trees close to my house in Kolkata & I have seen this
tree
> (Neolamarckia cadamba)
> & photographed its flowers but I never felt the fragrance associated with
> it. May be they are fragrant but the smell possibly does not spread far
> away.
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM, vinod kumar gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Malyada and Anand
>>
>> I had taken the shots of kadamb at hebbal lake and dehradun, while shot
of
>> kaim(mitragyna Parviflora) was taken near my residence(surajmal vihar)
 (all
>> attached)
>>
>> The two species are more easily differentiable by the character of their
>> leaves(the flowers grossly are similar)
>>
>> I believe in the climate of delhi,both speciec are seen(though I have yet
>> to see a kadamb),while in relativly moist climate(as in dehradun and
>> bangalore)Kim is more unlikely to be found
>>
>> I am however liable to correction by experts
>>
>> Sorry  for delay in reply as my broaadband was misbehaving
>>
>> Vinod
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Anand Kumar Bhatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: vinod kumar gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> [email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:36:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Indiantreepix] Re: kadmab(neolamarkia cadamba)
>>
>> The tree that I photographed is Kaim, now that Garg Ji has cleared my
>> doubt. Here is the link I posted:
>>
>>
http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/c635605788c88be6?hl=en
>>
>> The one that Vinod has posted is definitely Kadamba, I just wanted to be
>> sure whether they smell. This is because I saw them flowering in G noida
3-4
>> weeks back, and they didnt smell at all. If they dont smell, then them
being
>> called 'Kadamba' is a little strange isnt it? I thought Kadamba were
famous
>> for their smell. One reason they didnt smell might be that they dont
really
>> belong to a dry region like g noida. I have seen certain trees to change
>> some of their basic characteristics when grown outside their real
>> environment. Now Vinod Ji needs to confirm as he took the photo in a
moist
>> place like Dehradun.
>>
>> Here's another link from the net which has good photographs of
>> Neolamarckia cadamba:
>>
>>
http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1287/869607881_97fc25598c.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/869607881/&h=375&w=500&sz=193&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=p2UtnwhZt5k0OM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3DStephegyne%2Bparvifolia%2Bphotos%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DX
>>
>> and for Mitragyna parvifolia:
>>
>>
>>
http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1287/869607881_97fc25598c.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/869607881/&h=375&w=500&sz=193&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=p2UtnwhZt5k0OM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3DStephegyne%2Bparvifolia%2Bphotos%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DX
>>
>> I will update my post with the real name now.
>> Thanks for all the replies, at least one doubt is I guess clear:)
>>
>> malyada..
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Anand Kumar Bhatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pradeep Krishan in his book 'Trees of Delhi' has made an interesting
>>> point about Kadamba. He states that the real Kadamba associated with
>>> Krishna is the Kaim (Mytrogyna parviflora) which is native to dry
>>> climate of Vrindaban, whereas Kadamb (Neolamarckia cadamba) is native
>>> to moist forests. Yours of course is Kadamb. There was earlier a
>>> message from some gentleman from Vrindavan who has mentioned Kadamba.
>>> It would be interesting to find out whether they are Kadamb or Kaim.
>>> P.S. This I wrote before I saw malyada  having the same doubt. He has
>>> also mentioned that the Kadamb of vrindavan has highly frogrant
>>> floweers. Pradeep in his book has mentioned that Kadamba flowers are
>>> fragrant, whereas the same has not been mention for Kaim. Now it is my
>>> turn to be confused. Mayada, please let us know whether this tree at
>>> Vrindavan is Kadamba or Kaim. BNHS expert says that Banks of Yamuna
>>> would be quite OK for Kadamba.
>>> Best wishes,
>>> akbhatt
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:17 PM, vinod kumar gupta
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Taken a dehradun on 30.6.8
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Vinod
>>> >
>>> > >
>>>
>>>
>>> >>>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
> "We often ignore the beauty around us"
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