Pradeep Krishen says:
"2 other subspecies were until recently regarded as varieties but have now
been 'promoted'- one is the kauria or vedi babool (scientifically: Acacia
nilotica subsp. vediana) which is short & crooked, with a more
spreading crown of interlacing branches. Its bark is also rougher and more
fissured. It is found mostly in the Deccan."

2009/5/3 Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>

> Garg ji, Suresh ji,
>
> Now when I read my earlier message in this thread, I think I have messed
> up.
> The ID of Sangeeta ji's plant is *Acacia nilotica* ssp. *cupressiformis*as 
> Chitra ji has commented.
>
> To clarify my thoughts and expression: ... I wanted to assert that there is
> one sub species of A. nilotica which has almost no thorns, and that is ssp.
> tomentosa.
> I am sure there is lot of research and substance in Pradeep ji's Trees of
> Delhi.
>
> I am going by findings on internet ...
>
> For instance, these links:
> 1) http://www.fao.org/Ag/AGA/AGAP/FRG/AHPP102/102-277.pdf
> 2) http://iscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in/floristic%20survey.html ...
> requires several minutes to download ... read # 306
>
> It is better I stand corrected; at present I am not strong about my views
> of *A. nilotica* ssp. *tomentosa.*
> Few views of what I consider to be *A. nilotica* ssp. *tomentosa*:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=91314...@n00&q=Acacia+nilotica+ssp+tomentosa&m=text
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Dinesh ji,
>> But Trees of Delhi only mentions three subspecies of *Acacia nilotica*found 
>> in India- i.e.
>> *indica*, *vediana* & *cupressiformis*.
>>
>> 2009/5/2 Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>
>>  ... *Acacia nilotica* subsp. *tomentosa* ... this subspecies is much
>>> more elegant than common Arabian Acacia, the mature trees commonly without
>>> thorns, grow as high as 20m with a grand dense spherical canopy, resembling
>>> the tamarind tree. I have seen such large trees along Wai - Panchgani Road.
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Garg ji,
>>>> Many thanks. It was quite late last night and I must have missed out
>>>> the last picture.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Yazdy.
>>>>    On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:11 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Hi, Yazdy ji,
>>>> > You can clearly see them in the last picture.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2009/5/2 Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear Friends,
>>>> >> I thought Babul has a lot of thorns. From the two pictures, are any
>>>> >> thorns or spikes visible?
>>>> >> Regards
>>>> >> Yazdy Palia.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Sangeeta Swami <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > Thank you Chitra ji for identifying this tree as Acacia nilotica
>>>> var
>>>> >> > cupressiformis.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I searched the net, though hardly any pix, but this information was
>>>> >> > available:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > http://www.fao.org/ag/AGP/AGPC/doc/Gbase/Data/Pf000124.HTM
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Thanks again,
>>>> >> > Sangeeta
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On 5/1/09, Chitra Shanker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> THis is Acacia nilotica var cupressiformis
>>>> >> >> Chitra
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Sangeeta Swami
>>>> >> >> <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> I have no doubt that this is a babul tree (Acacia nilotica),
>>>> Delhi,
>>>> >> >>> today.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> But what has it got this kind of tall and pagoda like shape.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> In Jaipur area, this is known as "Surya Babul", if I am not
>>>> mistaken.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Comments from experts welcome.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Sangeeta
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > With regards,
>>>> > J.M.Garg
>>>> > "We often ignore the beauty around us"
>>>> > Creating Awareness about Indian Flora &
>>>> > Fauna:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
>>>> > For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google
>>>> e-group
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>> "We often ignore the beauty around us"
>> Creating Awareness about Indian Flora & Fauna:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
>> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google e-group
>> (Indiantreepix) http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en
>>
>>
>


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