thats great and invite all of us to finish the pumpkin puries, pakodas  
whatever you prepare
best luck for identification and our party
madhuri

--- On Wed, 6/5/09, sibdas <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: sibdas <[email protected]>
> Subject: [indiantreepix:11726] Re: Is it Ash Gourd creeper (270409YS1-3)
> To: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, 6 May, 2009, 8:43 PM
> 
> To add to the long discussion by Madhuri ji I like to add
> that it is
> not definitely an ash gourd. Only likely is it is Cucurbita
> pepo.
> Madhuriji thinks it not not because leaves are darker in
> colour, but
> there are varieties with dark coloured leaves as var. dynea
> and
> others. More over only in some pumpkins you will see these
> white
> streaks along leave veination. It is definitely a vegetable
> commonly
> eaten and the seeds escape outside the kitchen, where they
> grow
> luxuriously. Many people are unware of their identity. In
> the western
> countries Gourd figures are prepared during the Halloween
> festivals.
> The seeds escape and grow, many wonder what the plants are.
> I was
> several times summoned to identify the plants by my
> neighbours
> (knowing my interests in plants). May I request Sangeeta ji
> to rear
> the plants upto fruiting and see what it turns to.
> 
> On May 6, 6:01 pm, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Here is a reply from "Madhuri Pejaver" ji <[email protected]>:
> > "in one of the mail someone had send a picture of
> yellow flower belonging to
> > cucurbitaceae family from the kitchen garden. the last
> mail i remember
> > regarding the same was somebody identifying it as
> pumpkin flower confirmed,
> > while question asked was whether it is ash gourd?
> > has the flower been identified?
> > according to me it is not pumpkin because the leaves
> of pumpkin are light
> > green where as in the photo they were of blackish
> green colour.
> > it is a flower of cucurbitaceae no doubt. but then we
> can think what
> > cucurbetaceae fruits were brought home and eaten
> because it was a kitchen
> > garden flower.
> > it is not coccinia because flower is not white, leaves
> are large.
> > it is not bittergourd because flower is large and
> leaves are large and
> > differenr.
> > it is not pumpkin as leaves are blackish green
> > it is not snake gourd or dudhi or madrasi cucumber as
> calledin local market,
> > sautekai in kannada, small cucumber for the same
> reason.
> > neither water melon same reason
> > hence it can be white pumpkin????
> > what is ash gourd?
> > the cucurbitaceae flowers are unisexual ie seperate
> male and female
> > flowers.. female flower has a overy with shape of the
> fruit it beares.
> > sometimes the plant itself is unisexual so we donot
> see the overy or female
> > flower at all.
> > i request the sender to please check for the same.
> > was it sadhanaji?
> > madhuri"
> >
> > 2009/4/27 Sangeeta Swami <[email protected]>
> >
> > > A creeper from my kitchen garden growing on its
> own.
> > > Large orange yellow flower is wide open in the
> morning, but shuts by 10 AM.
> > > No fruti yet.
> > > Wonder if it is Ash Gourd (Petha in Hindi)?
> > > Regards,
> > > Sangeeta
> >
> > > --
> > > He who neither rejoices, nor hates, nor grieves,
> nor desires, renouncing
> > > good and evil, full of devotion, is dear to Me.
> (Gita XII/7)
> >
> > --
> > With regards,
> > J.M.Garg
> > "We often ignore the beauty around us"
> > Creating Awareness about Indian Flora & 
> > Fauna:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> > For learning about our trees & plants, please
> visit/ join Google e-group
> > (Indiantreepix)http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en
> > 
> 


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