Resurfacing again for experts to help solve this confusion.

I would request members again to help resolving this issue. Perhaps any one
having access to Journal of scientific research 1: 85. 1952. (J. Sci. Res.
(Jakarta) <http://www.tropicos.org/Publication/1158>) can help resolve the
issue, where combination under Neolitsea was proposed by Kostern.



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On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:

> Many thanks, Gurcharan ji for the eagerness. Me too hope - somebody digs
> into this confusion and give us a clear picture. By now I am sure that *Laurus
> cassia* in dictionaries refer to *Cinnamomum cassia*, a plant of
> commercial use.
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> In spite all efforts I could not resolve the issue how *Laurus cassia*L. 
>> could be the basionym of three combinations, of which at least two:
>> *Cinnamomum cassia* (L.) D. Don (Persea cassia (L.) Spreng. being its
>> synonym) and *Neolitsea cassia* (L.) Kosterm.cassia are quite distinct:
>>
>> http://www.tropicos.org/Name/17805255
>>
>> I would request members to help resolving this issue. Perhaps any one
>> having access to Journal of scientific research 1: 85. 1952. (J. Sci.
>> Res. (Jakarta) <http://www.tropicos.org/Publication/1158>) can help
>> resolve the issue, where combination under Neolitsea was proposed by
>> Kostern.
>>
>> The two are very distinct plants:
>> *Cinnamomum cassia* (L.) D. Don is Chinese cinnamon, Chinese cassia, the
>> source of Cassia oil or Oil of cinnamom.
>>
>> *Neolitsea cassia* (L.) Kostern. is Wild cinnamon, Dawal Kurundu in Sri
>> Lanka, the source of Bellary leaf oil
>>
>> Hope some one brings out a clear picture of synonymy.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for your response.
>>> I would wait patiently for any critical appreciation of your thoughts.
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry Dinesh ji, I could not reply earlier as I was travelling from
>>>> California to Delhi and could not access my account. I reached Delhi today.
>>>>
>>>> If one want to get confused, The plant list is the best place to visit.
>>>> But it can also be used for checking cross references. Best database to me
>>>> (in addition to GRIN) to rely are eFl China and  Tropicos (whose records
>>>> The plant list uses by does not always follow)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Laurus cassia L. and Laurus cassia Nees & T Nees are synonyms, and
>>>> latter can't be basionym for any name, as it is a later homonym of former.
>>>> Even The Plant List and Tropicos agree with it (being synonym of Cinnamomum
>>>> cassia (L.) C. Presl (which without doubt is based on Laurus cassia L.)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-17806432
>>>> http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-17806432
>>>>
>>>> Strangely no one lists Neolitsea cassia (L.)  Kosterm and Cinnamomum
>>>> cassia (L.) Presl. as synonyms, but since basionym is same, they have to 
>>>> be.
>>>>
>>>> But then there is a big catch. GRIN considers Neolitsea zeylanica (Nees
>>>> & T Nees) Merr. (based on Litsea zeylanica Nees & T. Nees as synonym of
>>>> Cinnamomum cassia (L.) Nees, whereas both Fl. China, Revised Flora of
>>>> Ceylon and The Plant List consider as distinct taxa belonging to a separate
>>>> genera.
>>>>
>>>> I hope I am not wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Dinesh Valke 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Message from Dr Santhosh Kumar ji:
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *Laurus cassia* L is a basyonym  of  *Neolitsea cassia* (L.) Kosterm.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Many many thanks to him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With this as fact, there seems to be some confusion in the past
>>>>> because of which:
>>>>> *Laurus cassia *L. is a synonym of *Cinnamomum cassia* (Nees &
>>>>> T.Nees) J.Presl ... The Plants 
>>>>> List<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-17805758>
>>>>>
>>>>> And just a few minutes back stumbled on this finding
>>>>> *Laurus cassia* Nees & T. Nees is a synonym of *Cinnamomum cassia*(L.) C. 
>>>>> Presl ... The
>>>>> Plants List
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus coincidentally, there are two identities of *Laurus cassia *as
>>>>> well as* **Cinnamomum cassia.
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> I now believe mentions of *Laurus cassia *in the online dictionaries
>>>>> and old literature must be *L. cassia* Nees & T. Nees ... syn. of 
>>>>> *Cinnamomum
>>>>> cassia* (L.) C. Presl - therefore are not related to *Neolitsea cassia
>>>>> * (L.) Kosterm.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Dinesh Valke 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>> My query stems from findings about synonymy of *Neolitsea cassia* -
>>>>>> while intending to gather its common names in regional languages of 
>>>>>> India.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My findings:
>>>>>> At The Plants 
>>>>>> List<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-50148283>(2010). Version 
>>>>>> 1  -
>>>>>> *Neolitsea cassia* (L.) Kosterm. ... no synonyms recorded
>>>>>> At NPGS / 
>>>>>> GRIN<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?413303>-
>>>>>> *Neolitsea cassia* (L.) Kosterm. ... synonyms: *Laurus cassia* L. (*
>>>>>> basionym*) • *Litsea zeylanica* Nees & T. Nees • *Neolitsea zeylanica
>>>>>> * (Nees & T. Nees) Merr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Neolitsea cassia* seems to be comparatively less discussed on
>>>>>> internet in context of common names; and hardly in online dictionaries. 
>>>>>> BUT
>>>>>> *Laurus cassia* has several entries in online dictionaries of South
>>>>>> Asia, especially in Sanskrit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The confusion:
>>>>>> *Would like to know which of the following is true:*
>>>>>> 1) *Laurus cassia* L. is basionym of *Neolitsea cassia* (L.) Kosterm.
>>>>>> 2) *Laurus cassia* L. is synonym of *Cinnamomum cassia* (Nees &
>>>>>> T.Nees) J.Presl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OR please help me with any other clarification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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