thanks, Gurchranaji,

I'll go to market now and see if I can bring back the socalled pallang
now... take pictures of Palak  or Palang saag we eat ... in Bengal and we
will take it from there...

your link two has the krinkly knobby wrinkled leaves the I remember eating
in  green salads in the 70 and 80s but have been eating the flattish leaves
ever since...

usha di
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On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes Ushadi
> It tastes different, slightly tangy and much softer.
> Here are some shots
>
>
> http://www.google.co.in/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbo=d&biw=1280&bih=675&tbm=isch&tbnid=6ZGPMJXSnvVshM:&imgrefurl=http://www.mdidea.com/products/proper/proper03106.html&docid=_f_sNdeSKCPveM&imgurl=http://www.mdidea.com/products/proper/spinach05.jpg&w=450&h=315&ei=bdUQUcLNAsq4rAfp9IHoCA&zoom=1
>
>
> https://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=spinacia%20oleracea&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41867550,d.bmk&biw=1280&bih=675&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=YdUQUYfPCoirrAejv4DwDg#imgrc=w2HzG_E4ImniKM%3A%3Brone9uFfrGk8SM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.scientific-web.com%252Fen%252FBiology%252FPlants%252FMagnoliophyta%252Fimages%252FSpinaciaOleracea1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.scientific-web.com%252Fen%252FBiology%252FPlants%252FMagnoliophyta%252FSpinaciaOleracea01.html%3B700%3B1091
>
>
> https://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=spinacia%20oleracea&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41867550,d.bmk&biw=1280&bih=675&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=YdUQUYfPCoirrAejv4DwDg#imgrc=NNqMvQCQuDsBzM%3A%3Bn1W31knHZ7QH8M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fluirig.altervista.org%252Fcpm%252Falbums%252Fbot-hawaii29%252F14385-Spinacia-oleracea.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fluirig.altervista.org%252Fflora%252Ftaxa%252Findex1.php%253Fscientific-name%253Dspinacia%252Boleracea%3B600%3B450
>
>
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> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Gurcharanji
>>
>> but do you mean all the spinach I have been eating for the last few
>> decades in various continents is a variety of Beet greens?
>>
>> they (spinach I eat) look and feel and taste different from beet greens
>>
>> I dont have pictures of beet greens nor of their flowers so cant argue
>> this point
>>
>> I 'll have to keep an open mind
>>
>> but in our junior botany id classes way back when this was indeed Palang
>> shaak... the leaf shape as seen in fig 1 (4159) seems to be of palang
>> shaak...
>>
>> well ... learning all the time...
>>
>> usha di
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Ushadi
>>> I fear this may not be Spinacia oleracea. The spinach sold in warmer
>>> parts of India is actually bet leaf Beta vulgaris var. bengalensis Roxb.
>>> now correctly known as *B. vulgaris* subsp. *maritima* (L.) Arch.
>>>
>>> Being very familiar with spinach in Kashmir (Palak), we used to call
>>> leafy Beta vulgaris var. maritima as Punjabi Palak in Kashmir. I was
>>> surprised, therefore, when this Punjabi Palak (word Hindustani or Punjabi
>>> is commonly used in Kashmir for any thing belonging to outside Kashmir) was
>>> called here in Delhi as Spinach and taught in practical classes (both
>>> Physiology and Taxonomy practical) as Spinacia oleracea. It took me some
>>> time to convince the teachers here. In fact in one College I went as
>>> external examiner, this plant was given to students. I tried to convince
>>> teachers, and finding that some senior teachers won't agree, I finally told
>>> them: Ok if you think this is Spinacia oleracea, students should show me
>>> the characters of this. Luckily no one disagreed with me there after.
>>>      By the way two are very different: leaves are hastate, flowers
>>> unisexual, fruiting perianth enlarging, becoming hardened and often spiny
>>> in Spinacia oleracea.
>>>      In Beta vulgraris, leaves are narrowed at base, flowers bisexual,
>>> perianth not hardened in fruit.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  *Chenopodiaceae and Amaranthaceae Week:  UD 002 :  Spinacia oleracea,
>>>> bolting from a local grower*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is Spinach *Spinacia oleracea,  * we all eat* it
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> And love and hate to some extent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Astringent taste leaves moth dry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hence the Italian took to adding creamy sauces to spinach I think…
>>>>
>>>>  there is no hard evidence for and against it… its just my fancy…
>>>>
>>>> I love to think that that’s why most spinach I ate in Italy or Greece
>>>>
>>>> was almost 70percent of the time smothered in creamy white sauces…
>>>>
>>>> and if not in sauces , in garlic…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Its leaves are rich in micro-nutrients such as  those that are
>>>> synthesized by the leaves…
>>>>
>>>> Vit K, B6, B2, Vit A and to some extent C…  and can be a rich source
>>>> of Magnesium,
>>>>
>>>> Selenium, manganese  if the soil its being grown in is not overused
>>>> and undernourished ;
>>>>
>>>> and Iron, since most soil is usually not too deficient in Iron in the
>>>> gangetic plains I am told…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *This example I am showing is Bolting, ie flowering, not considered
>>>> edible*
>>>>
>>>> * by this time, ie past its most desirable stage.   It tastes bitter,
>>>> I can vouch
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> *for it and quite fibrous.  I like the small greenish white flowers
>>>> though . *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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