Many thanks Garg ji for updating this thread with the ongoing discussion of
Zehneria - Melothria.
Hoping to get clarity from those who are studying Cucurbitaceae of
Maharashtra - especially Western Ghats.
Regards.
Dinesh


On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> The Following may be of help:
> Flora of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 
> 3<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=SZifARJXLJgC&pg=PA108&lpg=PA108&dq=Zehneria+maysorensis+%2B+india&source=bl&ots=FE0P_611c_&sig=MyB_fn09XkJAVBrCvPq4_ZrKrUc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VEDVUdLfMsPOrQe6zYHgCA&ved=0CCoQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=Zehneria%20maysorensis%20%2B%20india&f=false>
>   By Thamminen Pullaiah, K. Sri Ramamurthy (description & Keys- *
> maysorensis* & *scabra- 2007*) (*Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.)
> Arn.- *Syn: *Bryonia* *mysorensis* Wight & Arn.; *Melothria* *perpusilla*
> var. *subtruncata* Cogn.; *Melothria* *perpusilla*  auct. non. (Bl.)
> Cogn,)
>
> efi page on Zehneria 
> maysorensis<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae/zehneria/zehneria-maysorensis>
>  (species
> identified by Vijayasankar ji)
>
>
> On 4 July 2013 14:15, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Feedback from another 
>> thread<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/7ejsnKgMcYI>
>> :
>> "I have been somewhat confused about the status of Zehneria scabra,
>> uploaded by several members including Dinesh ji, Prashant ji, and other
>> members from Kas
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Zehneria/
>> indiantreepix/cCGIzB2cd9A/lEwSmgknYegJ
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Zehneria/
>> indiantreepix/cCGIzB2cd9A/lEwSmgknYegJ
>>  These confusions are often confounded by the absence of author
>> citations. Strange as it may look Zehneria scabra (L.f.) Sond (Swedeish
>> name *flikig pilreva), * and Melothria scabra Naudin (Swedish name 
>> *djungelgurka),
>> * are two distinct species, often confused on net, as Melothria is an
>> important species with good looking mini watermelon like fruits, and none
>> look similar to our Kas plants.
>> and as such names Cape zehneria, South African Zehneria won't apply to
>> our Kas plant.
>> My doubts are supported by recent nomenclature update by Renner and
>> Pandey in 2013
>>  They do not list Zehneria scabra for India, and Melothria perpusilla
>> (Blume) Cogn. is cited as synonym of *Zehneria perpusilla *(Bl.) Bole
>> and Almeida.......but as per citation this species does not grown in India.
>>  The other name often cited as synonym of Melothria perpusilla is
>> correctly *Zehneria hookeriana *(Wight & Arn) Arn, is endemic to Tamil
>> Nadu
>>  This leaves third name *Zehneria maysorensis *(Wight & Arn.) Arn. found
>> in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Maharashtra.
>>  Could it be our plant from Kas???
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh"
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>> Date: 3 April 2012 22:23
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:112652] Cucurbitaceae Week :: Zehneria scabra at
>> Kas and Mahabaleshwar
>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> *Zehneria scabra * Sond.
>>
>>
>>
>>    - *zy-NER-ee-uh* -- named in memory of Joseph Zehner, botanical
>>    artist of Vienna
>>    *SKAY-bruh* or *SKAB-ruh* -- rough
>>    ... Dave's 
>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf-XnKALJLi4ZvWhItDcjW2mcyZrg>
>>
>>
>> [image: Zehneria 
>> scabra]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F2902331606%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcB_q-yU2cM_6jZo1ej8H0jr62_dQ>
>> Sep 28, 2008 ... on Kas plateau, Maharashtra
>>
>>
>>
>> *commonly known as*: Cape zehneria, South African zehneria, wild
>> cucumber • *Hindi*: मुसमुसा musmusa • *Marathi*: चिरटी chirati • *
>> Manipuri*: লম থবী lam thabi • *Tamil*: naai pagal • *Telugu*: కూతురుబుడమ
>> kuturu-budama • *Urdu*: مسمسا musmusa
>>
>> *Distribution*: tropical and south Africa, west Asia, Indian peninsula,
>> Malesia
>>
>> *References*: Flowers of 
>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.in%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWild%2520Cucumber.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfZYGnZ_hw4JesM79BsC7AzBpm8Sg>•
>> M.M.P.N.D.<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au%2FSorting%2FZehneria.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzch4Rb94d0EO9ooXPbPWI9oqJk2_Q>•
>> *Further Flowers of Sahyadri* by Shrikant Ingalhalikar
>>
>>
>> *more views*:
>>
>>    - Sep 28, 2008 ... on Kas plateau, Maharashtra
>>    [image: Chirati (Marathi: 
>> चिरटी)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F2902334160%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfvjL3TyDWVeK-LA3fauIJbk9gRHg>
>>    - Aug 26, 2010 ... at Kate's Point, Mahabaleshwar, Maharashtra
>>    [image: Musmusa (Hindi: 
>> मुसमुसा)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4954615996%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcWdP-oH_HxwCCyw9MeRTKo97dleQ>
>>    - Aug 26, 2010 ... at Arthur's Seat, Mahabaleshwar, Maharashtra
>>    [image: Lam Thabi (Manipuri: লম 
>> থবী)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4955604163%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeXcj-16FxeY9DdQRxNBd-wgaCDlw>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
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