Yes, Gurcharan ji, thanks again for sensing this important issue and
calling for a revisit of Zehneria. This will enable us to update the
nomenclature in our database.

As per the literature, and as also pointed out by you in an earlier thread,
Z. scabra and the genus Melothria (now regarded "confined to America") do
not occur in India. This is a major shift in our understanding as we have
been using these names to our Indian plants. While the distinction between
Z. bodinieri and Z. maysorensis are clear, the differences between the
former species and Z. hookeriana are still vague (at least to me). A
well-defined key to the Zehneria species in India would help sort out the
confusion more effectively.



Regards

Vijayasankar
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Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D.
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Vijayasankar ji
>
> You seem to have made my contention in the below thread more stronger
>
> "So our collections having gone under Zehneria scabra in our websites may
> be sought to be segregated into three species:Zehneria maysorensis with
> beroadly ovate scabrous leaves, ovate corolla lobes and oblong 8-15 mm long
> fruits, Z. bodinieri with ovate leaves longer than broad, glabrous leaves,
> ovate-oblong corolla lobes and globose 8-10 mm fruits, and very similar Z.
> hookeriana"
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Zehneria$20scabra$20a$20relook/indiantreepix/H2QLQrK4hCs/Bhs4OSVhGwsJ
>
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> If my understanding is correct, then the first picture is of *Zehneria
>> maysorensis *(Wight & Arn.) Arn. and the second one could be of *Zehneria
>> bodinieri* (H.Lév.) W.J.de Wilde & Duyfjes. Pl refer to the following
>> paper.
>>
>> Reference:
>> De Wilde WJJO, Duyfjes BEE (2004). *Zehneria *(Cucurbitaceae) in
>> Thailand, with a note on the Indian *Zehneria maysorensis*. Thai Forest
>> Bulletin, Botany 32: 15–31.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D.
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for another new for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Zehneria scabra (syn. Bryonia scabra, Melothria perpusilla, Melothria
>>>> punctata)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> zy-NER-ee-uh -- named in memory of Joseph Zehner, botanical artist of
>>>> Vienna
>>>> SKAB-ruh -- meaning, rough
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *commonly known as*: Cape zehneria, South African zehneria, wild
>>>> cucumber • Hindi: मुसमुसा musmusa • Marathi: चिरटी chirati • Manipuri: লম
>>>> থবী lam thabi • Tamil: naai pagal • Telugu: కూతురుబుడమ kuturu-budama •
>>>> Urdu: مسمسا musmusa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Attached views from Kas plateau, and Kate's Point (Panchagani)
>>>> ... more views at
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=91314344%40N00&q=Zehneriascabra&m=tags
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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