Well said, Rawat ji.
On 26 November 2013 21:09, D.S Rawat <[email protected]> wrote: > I believe that Plant List is a huge document available to every one and > despite of many limitations it is very useful. Thanks to it, it is free and > open to all. > Can we compare our own efforts (all taxonomists of India) for just > providing a checklist of flowering plants of India; mere 17,926 species but > still even no checklist ! An if it exists, is it available to every one ?. > Thanks to eFI which contains big proportion of this flora which is open to > all. > DSRawat Pantnagar > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:37:25 PM UTC+5:30, Satish Phadke wrote: > >> Thanks Gurcharan ji >> Your continued efforts will definitely show results some day. >> A very positive response. Seems to be one step ahead. >> >> Dr Satish Phadke >> >> >> On 25 November 2013 21:53, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Gurcharan ji for your efforts. Being a global database, and also >>> 'done on a voluntary basis', TPL may have its own difficulties and >>> limitations. Being a regular user of TPL, I am shocked to know that it is >>> 'static' and not dynamic. >>> >>> I wonder if TPL can be open to us at eFI so that we can contribute by >>> editing/updating its records wherever possible. Of course, the edits will >>> be peer-reviewed by TPL before being finally published in the database. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D. >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear friends >>>> Here is the response which should help members to decide how much we >>>> expect from the Second Version of The Plant List. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: tpl_edit <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:34 PM >>>> Subject: RE: New version of The Plant List >>>> To: Bob Allkin <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> Cc: tpl_edit <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Dr Singh, thanks for your comments. I just wanted to add to the >>>> response of my colleague regarding the limitations of the Plant list. We >>>> have always tried to be open about these and in the next version we have >>>> added the following paragraph to the ‘about’ pages of the next version. >>>> Thanks again for all your comments. Best wishes, Alan >>>> Limitations >>>> >>>> The Plant List is not perfect and represents work in progress. Data >>>> comes from a variety of sources which are both monographic (global) and >>>> regional in scope. These data sources vary in the extent to which >>>> comprehensive synonymy is included, their stage of development (proximity >>>> to publication) and the degree to which they have been exposed to peer >>>> review. The Plant List indicates the confidence which can be given to >>>> the status of a particular name record using a star >>>> rating<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2F1.1%2Fabout%2F%23confidence&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF0Mt0ikBDKtP3zFynSQqTZRjPwxw>. >>>> Around 20% of names are >>>> unresolved<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2F1.1%2Fabout%2F%23unresolved&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGbLs0u8l_V95P4tID62DWlQGrJ2g>indicating >>>> that, considered collectively, the data sources included >>>> provided insufficient evidence as to whether the name should be treated as >>>> accepted<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2F1.1%2Fabout%2F%23accepted&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFxAAhxfSGCq_HBHg_ZWQllWz9iOw>or >>>> not. >>>> >>>> The Plant List is static. It is neither updated regularly from the >>>> original data sources, nor edited directly. Data was extracted from source >>>> databases in May 2012 and thus records included here may differ from their >>>> current equivalent records in the source database from which they were >>>> taken. Where you suspect errors in The Plant List, please first check >>>> the source databases where corrections may have already been made. Feedback >>>> and corrections pertaining to records in The Plant List are passed on >>>> to the source database for consideration. If accepted by the source >>>> database they may be incorporated in a future version of The Plant List. >>>> We do not edit or revise the content of The Plant List directly. >>>> >>>> There exist other reliable authoritative sources of taxonomic opinion >>>> for some groups or some regions which we simply did not have the time or >>>> resources to include in this version of The Plant List. Our ambition >>>> is for future versions to be more inclusive and comprehensive. Although The >>>> Plant List may be the most comprehensive single information resource >>>> covering all plants, it is imperfect and not all the taxonomic decisions >>>> contained derive from a peer reviewed, curated, authoritative source. The >>>> Plant List therefore should only be treated as advisory. Other, more >>>> authoritative lists may exist for particular regions or taxa. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr Alan Paton >>>> >>>> Assistant Keeper, Biodiversity Information and Economic Botany >>>> >>>> Herbarium, Library, Art and Archives >>>> >>>> Royal Botanic Gardens Kew >>>> >>>> TW9 3AB >>>> >>>> UK >>>> >>>> +44 (0)208 332 5295 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Bob Allkin >>>> *Sent:* 23 November 2013 16:52 >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> >>>> *Cc:* tpl_edit >>>> *Subject:* FW: New version of The Plant List >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Dr Singh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> your email was forwarded to me. >>>> >>>> We are pleased that you find TPL useful. We are painfully aware of its >>>> limitations. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We know that the second version will be a great improvement on Version >>>> 1. It is currently delayed for a week for want of some extra computer >>>> memory. However we are equally certain that it will not resolve all of your >>>> correction and wishes. Some of the issues you raise are better handled than >>>> before but not perfectly. We are only able to present data as sent to us. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> All corrections sent to us will have been forwarded to the owner/editor >>>> of the database from which that record derives. Whether or not those >>>> suggestions were included in the database I cannot tell. We have ambitions >>>> for making TPL very much better but the whole project is done on a >>>> voluntary basis. If you have suggestions as to how we might find resources >>>> to improve it then I would be delighted to hear from you >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> thanks for your interest and please do continue to send corrections we >>>> will forward to the relevant institution. >>>> >>>> best regards >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr Bob Allkin >>>> >>>> Information Products Manager, >>>> >>>> RBG Kew, TW9 4AB >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> From: Gurcharan Singh[SMTP:[email protected]] >>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:10:11 AM >>>> To: tpl_edit; [email protected] >>>> Subject: New version of The Plant List >>>> Auto forwarded by a Rule >>>> >>>> Dear sir >>>> >>>> With the release of The Plant List in 2010 taxonomists around the world >>>> were greatly relieved with the hope of finding accepted names at one place. >>>> Unfortunately there were more conflicts than solutions. I have already sent >>>> more than 1000 corrections in seven separate mails. Hope these are others >>>> communicated by rest of the taxonomic community are taken care of in >>>> compiling the second list which as we understand would be online shortly. >>>> >>>> Following need urgent attention in the second list >>>> >>>> 1. Long list of unresolved names. >>>> >>>> 2. Listing of several subspecies and varieties (which is always >>>> welcome) but not mentioning the autonym. >>>> >>>> 2. Mention of autonyms (Brassica juncea subsp. juncea) but no other >>>> subspecies or variety is listed as accepted name. An autonym is created >>>> only when some other subspecies or variety is recognised. When we don't >>>> recognise any other subspecies, B. juncea subsp. juncea is redundant. >>>> >>>> 3. several cases of name combinations (there are thousands of examples >>>> in the First List) where no synonym is listed, not even the basionym. >>>> >>>> 4. Numerous examples in which author name is given after the autonym >>>> epithet, It is well known fact that autonyms are automatically created and >>>> won't bear author name. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gurcharanfamily.com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHGOXhhkU4mtzSd3FYjasyamW99YA> >>>> >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fpeople.du.ac.in%2F~singhg45%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFZHbZTfAXuOMhPpneqVpiVmswTiw> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- With regards, J.M.Garg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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