Thank you very much Gurcharan ji for the clarification. I was hoping that
one of the names has no scope for some good reason !! In case I go to
Manali again, I will certainly make it a point to visit the Van Vihar park
and check for the relevant aspects.
Regards.
Dinesh


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dinesh ji
> This is yet another example how we get stumped when author name is not
> indicated.
> There are two different species which have been given the name P. laricio
> and both have two leaves in a spur
> P. laricio Poir. (leaves up to 17 cm long, dark green, cones up to 8 cm
> long) is illegitimate name and now considered as synonym of P. nigra Arnold
> subsp. laricio Maire
> P. laricio Savi ( leaves 18-25 cm long, glossy green, cones 12-25 cm long)
> is now correctly known as P. pinaster subsp. escarena (Risso) K. Richt.
> Perhaps this may help in fixing the correct name.
>
>
>
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> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Gymnosperms fortnight
>> Pinaceae ... pine family
>> ¿ *Pinus laricio* ? ¿ Poir. ? OR ¿ Savi ?
>> Dear friends, this ID *Pinus laricio* is based on the placard - could be
>> wrong too.
>>
>> At The Plants List, could find two instances of *Pinus laricio* ... 1)
>> Poir. and 2) Savi ... if the placard is correct, the plant could either be 
>> *Pinus
>> nigra* subsp. *laricio* Maire OR *Pinus pinaster* subsp. *escarena* (Risso)
>> K.Richt.
>>
>> I am aware that these photos would not help in ascertaining the ID; but
>> there is no better opportunity to add them to group's database than its own
>> fortnight ! in Van Vihar, Manali on 04 JUN 08
>>
>> [image: Pinus 
>> laricio]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F2561967968%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcATLwbmM2hj2cLJiEI5USHTlcHTw>
>>
>>
>> [image: Pinus 
>> laricio]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F2561910856%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdYP-9m_o4_nAZNSF57o5Sjw2K4qg>
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
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