Thanks Viplav ji for your critical analysis. I will upload more photographs to mine from Kashmir for you to give a better decision.
Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>wrote: > Viplav ji, > Thanks for taking efforts in identifying my plant seen at the Flower Show > in Mumbai recently. > Frankly, I was seeing it for the first time, so I have no clues about the > id. > Gurcharan ji, Nidhan ji and you can come to a final conclusion. > Thanks again. > Regards, > Aarti > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:33 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Thanks Aarti ji for sharing more pictures. I feel quite certain that this >> is *Echium plantagineum *: >> >> 1] The leaves are clearly cordate-amplexicaul. Conversely, *E. vulgare*tends >> to have tapering leaf bases. >> >> 2] The last photograph - DSCN9902.jpg - clearly depicts the prominently >> branched venation of *E. **plantagineum. *In contrast, all the leaves of *E. >> vulgare* have a (more or less) warty, dimpled >> surface<http://www.utas.edu.au/dicotkey/dicotkey/BORAGINACEAE/ZZEchium_vulgare2.htm>with >> inconspicuous >> longitudinal >> veins<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Echium_vulgare_%27Viper%27s_Bugloss%27_(Boraginaceae)_leaves.JPG> >> . >> >> 3] Multiple stems can be seen emerging from the base in the last >> photograph [DSCN9902.jpg], this too is typical of *E. **plantagineum*. >> >> It is difficult to judge the degree of stamen length & exsertion from >> these pictures but after zooming & cropping some individual flowers, two >> stamens appear to be considerably longer than the other three. >> >> Please correct me if I am missing something. >> >> Best wishes, Viplav >> >> El 21 de febrero de 2014, 10:03, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> >> escribió: >> >> >>> Gurcharan ji, >>> Thanks for the id of this ornamental. >>> Regards, >>> Aarti >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> I hope Echium vulgare, all stamens appear far protruding. >>>> Mine from Harwan Kashmir did not have all well protruding and was >>>> finally suggested as E. plantaginum. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Echium/indiantreepix/laVUJFIBi6Q/OBr8iX1nAawJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Aarti S. Khale >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Viplav ji, >>>>> Not very good pictures, but I hope they are helpful in identifying >>>>> this Echium. >>>>> Aarti >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Viplav ji, >>>>>> Thanks for the detail information. >>>>>> I will try to see if I have more pictures. >>>>>> Beautiful pictures by Nidhan ji on the link given by you. >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Aarti >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:43 PM, [email protected] <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> More likely to be *Echium plantagineum*. The photos are not very >>>>>>> clear but looking at the side view of some of the flowers, two stamens >>>>>>> appear to be longer than the rest and extending well beyond the corolla >>>>>>> tube (indicative of *E. plantagineum*) as against four equally-long >>>>>>> stamens going past the corolla in *E. vulgare*. Zooming into your >>>>>>> second photograph, the leaf base appears to be cordate-amplexicaul. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is the key to these two species: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.utas.edu.au/dicotkey/dicotkey/BORAGINACEAE/gEchium_2.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are some nice pictures of *E. plantagineum* by Dr Nidhan on this >>>>>>> page<http://medplants.blogspot.in/search/label/Echium%20plantagineum>. >>>>>>> Perhaps he could help in confirming the species. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best wishes, Viplav >>>>>>> >>>>>>> El 18 de febrero de 2014, 21:40, Aarti S. Khale < >>>>>>> [email protected]> escribió: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Viplav ji. >>>>>>>> Could this be Echium vulgare? >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:48 PM, [email protected] < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Echium* sp. [Boraginaceae]. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best wishes, Viplav >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> El 18 de febrero de 2014, 14:40, Aarti S. Khale < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> escribió: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Seen at the Flower Show on 16/2/14. >>>>>>>>>> Cultivated, garden plant. >>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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