Sir, I'm sorry to say again that it is not P. pamirica. I'm sure about that after seeing the type material of P. pamirica (deposited at Leningrad) and checking the description of this species in Flora of the USSR. I do not agree with to eFlora of Pakistan that "Indian specimens of P. balsamifera actually belong to P. pamirica". Rather I believe on the work of C.K. Schneider (Pl. Wilson., 1916) who included the Indian "Populus balsamifera"(of Hooker, Brandis) under Populus szechuanica var. tibetica. Schneider's work seems to be more justified as his work is very original (not copied from other) and simply marvelous.
The leaf of your specimen looks like some hybrid of P. nigra var. italica. But for further confirmation reproductive parts are required. I'm not willing to include neither P. pamirica nor P. balsamifera in Indian list. Thanks, Sukla ------------------------------------------------ Sukla Chanda, PhD Science & Education, The Field Museum, Chicago IL. On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Could it be P. pamirica Kom. considering the fact that according to eFlora > of Pakistan Indian specimens of P. balsamifera actually belong to P. > pamirica. Also keeping in mind the fact that both species are missing from > Dr. Sukla ji's list. > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:06 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A reply: >> "Some more information is required for identification of Populus species. >> From the information provided so far is leaf. I still think may be P. >> balsamiana. >> Regards. >> Bhellum" >> >> Thanks, Bhellum ji. >> >> >> On 12 February 2014 09:12, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> This is not *P. balsamifera* L. I'm not sure what species it is. I >>> guess it is P. szechuanica var. tibetica which show diversity of shape of >>> leaf lamina. My next post will show *Populus balsamifera* L. from >>> Canada and USA. It would help for further understanding where both these >>> differ. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Sukla >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>> Sukla Chanda, PhD >>> Science & Education, >>> The Field Museum, Chicago IL. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>> Date: 4 February 2014 10:00 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:180827] Salicaceae (including Flacourtiaceae) >>> Fortnight: Populus balsamifera from Kashmir Pl. validate-GSFEB-6 >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Poppulus balsamifera photographed from Dachigam Kashmir, pl validate. >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >>> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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