Didi, Wiki says it originated in AHSI. Kolkata <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canna_'Bengal_Tiger'#History>, later transported to Africa and US. Wiki also has info on naming convention of cultivated species <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Code_of_Nomenclature_for_Cultivated_Plants#Examples_of_names_governed_by_the_ICNCP>. One 'edu' site informs, "*Canna indica* was hybridized and backcrossed with other *Canna* species, including the North American native, *C. flaccida* (golden canna) <http://www.public.asu.edu/~camartin/plants/Plant%20html%20files/cannageneralis.html>". According to this site these hybrids seem to be known as *Canna* x *generalis* which is again supported by other sites like -
1. http://www.plantoftheweek.org/week285.shtml 2. http://www.clemson.edu/extension/horticulture/nursery/remediation_technology/constructed_wetlands/plant_material/canna_lily_bengal_tiger.html Maybe certain countries have a tendency to own it all, or maybe a particular cultivar with slightly altered characters! That may explain *americanallis* or 'pretoria' (after it was transported to SA)! Thank you very much for motivating to dig a bit more. Regards On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ushadi Micromini < [email protected]> wrote: > you are welcome > > wonder if this helps anybody form legislation? > > > usha di > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:30 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Didi, for the first time I come across the term 'tea-roses', found info >> in wiki. Thank you very much for this short yet wonderful write up. This is >> where I missed you very badly for the past one year. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> botanical naming is a mystery to me when it comes to commercial >>> interests and cut-throat pricing wars based on the name of a cultivar or a >>> hybrid... esp tea roses , its more than cut-throat.. >>> >>> and its shameless esp when the parents (sometimes both ) may have been >>> "stolen" from the country of origin... It not only happened as a matter of >>> their rights during colonial era, it goes on today ... cite basmati, >>> turmeric, neem, many many varieties of Hoya, and orchids in particular... >>> >>> I gave up guessing a long time ago >>> usha di >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:40 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes Didi, I have read that. But couldn't find citation of 'striata' >>>> also. I was thinking if it is a hybrid then why not *Canna* x *abc* like >>>> other hybrids! >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> surajit >>>>> in your other thread >>>>> i wrote you this yesterday... >>>>> >>>>> i quote" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 8:11 PM (14 hours ago) >>>>> on 8 24 2014 >>>>> >>>>> to Pudji, efloraofindia, Nidhan Surajit >>>>> i did some search >>>>> everybody has a cultivar and a name!!! >>>>> phew >>>>> >>>>> daves garden even lists it as >>>>> >>>>> Canna americanallis var. variegata 'Pretoria' >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> when did it acquire a name americanallisis? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> god knows" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ........end quote >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:51 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes Usha Di, the first link you have provided says it is synonymous >>>>>> with 'pretoria', 'Bengal tiger'... >>>>>> But, why Dave's Garden says *americanallis*? A cultivar epithet - >>>>>> http://zipcodezoo.com/Plants/C/Canna_americanallis_var__Variegata_f__ruminoides/ >>>>>> ? >>>>>> One *Canna* site - http://www.canna-collection.org.uk/taxonomy.html >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> have this name. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Surojit nice pics >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pretoria may be a colloquial name >>>>>>> at various botanical gardens in the west I have seen this labelled >>>>>>> as : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Its called Canna 'striata >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=b909 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MOBot shows reddish flowers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but I have also seen and photographed yellow flowers at NYBG >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://garden-photos-com.photoshelter.com/gallery/Canna-Stock-Photos/G0000b4pwKujf8c0/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://garden-photos-com.photoshelter.com/gallery/Canna-Stock-Photos/G0000b4pwKujf8c0/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this page shows yellow flowers halfway down the page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 7:52 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Madam, perhaps it is calles 'Pretoria' (not Prectoria >>>>>>>> <http://www.onlineplantguide.com/Plant-Details/416/>) Canna - >>>>>>>> http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/2842/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks n regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Promila Chaturvedi < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mr. Koley, >>>>>>>>> I also want it to be identified. I have this var. of canna >>>>>>>>> flourishing in my miniature garden. >>>>>>>>> Promila >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:48 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Without flower I could have taken it as an ornamental aroid. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Usha di >>>>> =========== >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Usha di >>> =========== >>> >> >> > > > -- > Usha di > =========== > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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