This controversy is now of long standing. Whereas after photographing the second plant from Chakrata area I am inclined to accept that second plant is in fact Brachyactis pubescens, the first plant is still a mystery. It seems to be the same as uploaded by Nidhan ji and Balkar ji from Valley of flowers.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Erigeron$20and$20Brachyactis/indiantreepix/Raz3UU7fmwc/ahFtkkXTa1wJ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Erigeron$20and$20Brachyactis/indiantreepix/wtcSyphrl9A/7L1Ka23pm_MJ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Erigeron$20and$20Brachyactis/indiantreepix/KNzmgXSATf8/wiFGwE-onJoJ We have to compare these plants with my upload from Kashmir https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Erigeron$20acer$20$20multicaulis$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/AYCZDj5gI7g/xl_Vtk2XVLoJ Only one of the two can be E. acer var. multicaulis, the first one with larger broader leaves, shorter peduncles and large foliaceous outer involucre bracts and second (from Kashmir) with narrower leaves, long peduncles and important shorter and narrower ivolucre bracts. Here is the image of true E. acer var. acer for comparison http://www.thewildflowersociety.com/wfs_diary/wfs_browser_diary_thumbnail_pages/browser_diary_page_8_thumbnail.htm I have tried to seek solution from Indian Flora (Facebook) but no help Important to mention that in FBI Clarke had differentiated var. multicaulis on the basis of mainly stems branched from base and heads on long peduncles. Hope to get solution soon. Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:04 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Further replies from another thread > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Neobrachyactis$20AND$20pubescens%7Csort:date%7Cspell:true/indiantreepix/Raz3UU7fmwc> > : > "Not to get confused > The two are quite distinct. > Brachyactis is a very distinct genus from Erigeron with outer involucre > bracts being foliaceous. Above plant is Brachyactis pubescens (DC.) > Aitch. & Clarke (syn: B. robusta Benth.) is now known as *Neobrachyactis > pubescens* (DC) Brouillet, Fl. China. 20-21: 573. 2011. > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097863 > Erigeron multicaulis is very distinct without foliaceous bracts. It is now > known as *Erigeron acer* var. *multicaulis* (Wall. ex DC.) C. B. Clarke, > (Not acris which is a totally different species). > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200023885 > http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/gcc-93955 > Dr. Gurcharan Singh" > > > > > > On 19 December 2013 21:23, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Kishan ji, >> I could not find any match for Erigeron acris var. multicaulae. I think >> you mean *Erigeron acer* var. *multicaulis* (Wall. ex DC.) C. B. >> Clarke as per Flora of Nepal >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242422256> >> In that case, the following post by Singh ji has to be revisited: >> Asteraceae Fortnight Part 1-Radiate Heads: Erigeron acer var. multicaulis >> from Kashmir, and Manali-GS63 >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/AYCZDj5gI7g> >> >> >> On 12 December 2013 20:20, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A reply: >>> "The species earlier identified as Brachyactis robusta syn. B. Pubesense >>> is actualy Erigeron acris var.multicaule.The images of Brachyactis >>> pubesence and Erigeron acris var. multicaulae stands submitted through my >>> previous thread. However i am sending again for easy . >>> Yours, >>> Krishan Lal" >>> >>> >>> On 11 December 2013 10:20, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Kisan Lal ji, >>>> I think you mean to say that species earlier identified as Brachyatis >>>> robusta >>>> in the following threads from Balkar ji & Nidhan ji, should be >>>> *Brachyactis* *pubescens* Aitch. & Clarke: >>>> VOF Week: Herb for Id from the Valley 2012: >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/Raz3UU7fmwc> >>>> VoF Week: Erigeron alpinus from the way to Hemkund sahib: >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/KNzmgXSATf8> >>>> Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Erigeron for id from VOF- NS >>>> 55 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/wtcSyphrl9A> >>>> >>>> Pl. confirm. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 December 2013 21:53, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Kishanlal <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: 4 December 2013 21:44 >>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:175394] Flora of Chakrata 2013: >>>>> Thalictrum sp. for id from Budher >>>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear sir, >>>>> The long outstanding species now been >>>>> confirmed.This species of Erigeron oftenally mis identified due to >>>>> present >>>>> phylarres. and considered brachyatis robusta >>>>> >>>>> Yours, >>>>> >>>>> Krishan Lal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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