Yes Usha Di, I referred the sites only for Bengali names of plants (not validity of species id), what they usually provide, as for example, TULSI -
1. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/ocimum-sanctum.php 2. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/ocimum-basilicum.php Thank you Regards On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ushadi Micromini < [email protected]> wrote: > Yes Surajit > i looked at that website, i am familiar with it, and them. > most of their pics and write up are cut and paste and not referenced... > they never acknowledge source or type the source url etc, so how can one > take it seriously. > > Back to more authentic ones... the hard evidence at hand are the reference > books i have access to at moments notice... no such name comes up. > > Rakesh it nice to see you here again > > Usha di > > > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:54 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you very much Usha Di. I anticipated that you might have worked on >> it! >> >> It is interesting that while Sir Prain, following Hooker, cited >> Roxburgh's *Baeobotrys indica* & *B. nemoralis* for *Maesa indica*, >> Haines, following Hooker, thought *Maesa indica* was partly synonymous >> with *M. montana* DC. Similarly, Voigt thought *Baeobotrys indica* is >> synonymous with *Maesa lanceolata*! However, latest info from FoC >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=119441> >> informs they are different taxa. >> >> It is furthermore interesting that even website of Bangladesh, where >> those trees are/were found, doesn't provide Bengali name - >> >> 1. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/maesa-indica.php >> 2. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/maesa-acuminata.php >> >> Regards >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> not Jones' >>> its monier -williams's dictionary cited >>> sorry, somehow my hand must have hit the send button area on the screen >>> >>> I aslo had searched ayurvedic books and some kabiraji books in bangla >>> ... no ramjani... there are many plants whose name starts with Ram- but no >>> ramjani plant. or herb or medicine. >>> >>> really Ram must jano know.// god knows. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dinesh and Surajit >>>> I also searched in the books I have even in tribal medicine books >>>> including Assamese but did not find ramjani...!!!! >>>> >>>> Surajit's explanation sounds closer to home truth, many Sahib >>>> "researcher" relied on local servants for names of local vegetation. >>>> Jones's dictionary is often cited by Sanskrit scholars oas one such widely >>>> used book... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Many many thanks Surajit ji for the clarification. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:11 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I do not know, for neither Roxburgh nor Voigt provided any Bengali >>>>>> name. The name, in English script, can be found in Haines and Prain >>>>>> though. >>>>>> >>>>>> A story goes : One SAHIB, in those British days, asked his orderly >>>>>> what is the Bengali of "Close the door?" The orderly replied, "DARJA >>>>>> BANDHO >>>>>> KARO." The SAHIB remarked, "Got it, There-was-a brown crow!" >>>>>> >>>>>> "RAM" usually denotes to anything bigger, as in RAM-TULSI. >>>>>> >>>>>> RAMJANI may also translate to "Nobody knows!" or "I do not know!" >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:52 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 7 September 2014 13:07 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:199076] Names of Plants in India :: >>>>>>> Bengali name of Maesa indica >>>>>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Dinesh Ji, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not sure, it may be রমজানী or রামজানি or রমজনী,.... please >>>>>>> check the attached entries from Piddington, Roxburgh, Prain, Voigt for >>>>>>> other names and related info. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sourav may help, for it is native to his place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 6:39 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: 31 August 2014 13:04 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:199076] Names of Plants in India :: Bengali >>>>>>>> name of Maesa indica >>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Bengali-knowing friends, please help with the name "ramjani" >>>>>>>> of Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. 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